Forums/Z31P/z31-performance-upgrade-forums suspension-chassis-and-brakes/Isis coilovers/Stance parts
Imported from Z31Performance.com Forums{{#if:PurePontiacKid| — original post by PurePontiacKid}}{{#if:2010-11-21 21:03:42|, posted 2010-11-21 21:03:42}}{{#if:37| · 37 post{{#ifeq:37|1||s}}}}{{#if:/Z31performance_archive/forum/z31-performance-upgrade-forums/suspension-chassis-and-brakes/12650-isis-coilovers-stance-parts.html|
Local archive: view archived thread on dev.z31library.com}}
PurePontiacKid: (2010-11-21 21:03:42)
Hey guys, I just found this in a for sale thread on another forum, and thought you guys might be interested. (I've omitted some stuff like the prices and whatnot for the seller's sake)
"ISIS S13 coilovers with stance 8/6 springs and stance lower adjustment
These are BRAND NEW ISIS coilovers still have the original box just took them out to swap over the springs and collars to stance. This will make the coils go MUCH MUCH lower than regular ISIS stuff will do.
[archived image: zilviaforsale005.jpg]
[archived image: zilviaforsale006.jpg]
[archived image: zilviaforsale007.jpg]
[archived image: zilviaforsale008.jpg]
[archived image: zilviaforsale009.jpg]
So basically, what I'm reading this as, is that the Isis coilovers have the same thread pitch as Stance coilovers so they could, theoretically, fit into the S9/Stance adaptors for the fronts of our cars, and the rears would go in the same way as the Stance do.
now, you may be wondering why this is interesting? well Isis coilovers sell for less than $700 (befoar shipping) from Enjuku Racing, which is moar than $400 cheaper than the cheapest Stance coils.
Now, I'm not in any way trying to make it sound like cheaper is bettar, but some guys don't have the budget for super nice coilovers (like me [archived image: frown.png] )
here's a link to the Isis coilovers on Enjuku:
http://www.enjukuracing.com/isis-basic- … -9092.html
flame me if you want, but I thought I would put this out there for the rest of you guys
Careless: (2010-11-21 21:28:40)
the rear mounting posts look cheap as hell compared to the fully machined bottom mounts from stance.
sprtcrazy17: (2010-11-21 21:41:06)
Indeed^ does look cheap, but you get what you pay for. And I'm sure it'd be plenty strong enough
ShamWow: (2010-11-22 01:44:18)
Someone has blatantly pointed out that Isis are shit and do not go low enough.
But now you want them?
I do not understand this forum sometimes. Its $400!
Racinjitter: (2010-11-22 02:19:44)
I guess it is an option, But I am willing to bet that within a year the purchaser will swap the ISIS stuff for stance or whatever. If you get a hold of the correct company, stance do not cost 1100… But much less, especially with removing the stuff that we don't need.
Guest: (2010-11-22 02:35:10)
less than 1100? With the adapters? Please show me the way.
PurePontiacKid: (2010-11-22 02:55:17)
you can make anything go low, and I never said anything about Isis being shit, I've also read stuff about them not being shit either so idk lol
Andrevas: (2010-11-22 02:57:16)
[quote]300cars wrote:
I guess it is an option, But I am willing to bet that within a year the purchaser will swap the ISIS stuff for stance or whatever. If you get a hold of the correct company, stance do not cost 1100… But much less, especially with removing the stuff that we don't need.
less than 1100? With the adapters? Please show me the way.
not including the adaptors, which you need with the Isis coils anyway.
ShamWow: (2010-11-22 03:06:23)
CALL TOUGE FACTORY.
THEY ARE GOD AND CREATOR OF STANCE.
Never mind. After reviewing your build thread, just cheap this shit out so you can afford tires and reg fees. I'm tired of seeing "pictars" of that shit parked.
PurePontiacKid: (2010-11-22 03:23:10)
awwe
u mad bro
Careless: (2010-11-22 03:28:55)
I'm with Mr.G on this one.
for 400 bucks, big fucking deal.
you're getting people who support their product and the entire interwebs knows they support them.
IF I WERE to buy ISIS stuff, I'd have a lengthy talk with enjuku about how the rebuild process works first. who pays shipping if something fails that is not under your control? how long does it take? What do you get back? Rebuilt cores or brand new replacements?
Sounds like 400 bucks worth of hassle when you think abooot it.
adamvann3: (2010-11-22 03:52:40)
+1
Ppl just dont understand how reasonable these can be. No one on here is going to go out and say how much they paid, but will point you in the right direction no problem. MSRP is always suggested retail [archived image: smile.png]
NissanXRMA: (2010-11-22 18:26:31)
+1
Gotta love when z31 agrees
michaelp: (2010-11-22 20:26:42)
WOOOOT
simply86T: (2010-11-22 22:16:08)
Guys, it's time to come out of the closet now! :nanan?re
Racinjitter: (2010-11-22 22:24:51)
[quote]simply86T wrote:
No one on here is going to go out and say how much they paid.Guys, it's time to come out of the closet now! :nanan?re
I will just say that I paid about 1/3 of what my coilovers MSRP for.
simply86T: (2010-11-23 15:28:11)
So I was doing some googling on ISIS and found that most people hatin' on ISIS because of their low price instead of actually having used their coilovers. For those lovin' ISIS actually switched from springs to coilovers, and well, that's not really a proper comparison is it?
So besides price advantage, those who jumped on ISIS really because ISIS is fully backed by Enjuku Racing. So most of them said if you trust Enjuku Racing, then by extension ISIS. Well, I know nothing about Enjuku Racing. :lol: But on ISIS' website Touge Factory looks to be one of their dealers (even tho I couldn't find ISIS products on Touge's website):
http://www.isisperformance.com/dealers
bleakdragonmage: (2010-11-23 20:42:29)
I am not defending ISIS, just saying…
The new Stance XR premium coilver…
Careless: (2010-11-23 23:46:50)
interesting. looks flimsy [archived image: frown.png]
but i guess if and control arms are welded in very few spots as a comparison, it should be ok.
probably a very bad comparison on my part though.
what's the price point of the XR "premium"?
ShamWow: (2010-11-23 23:50:01)
[quote]Racinjitter wrote: [quote=simply86T]
No one on here is going to go out and say how much they paid.Guys, it's time to come out of the closet now! :nanan?reI will just say that I paid about 1/3 of what my coilovers MSRP for.
I will just say that I profited by switching to coilovers.
bleakdragonmage: (2010-11-23 23:55:54)
I think the MSRP is like 2400+… or maybe that was the sale price… i just saw it on zilvia while i was perusing out of boredom.
Andrevas: (2010-11-24 03:38:27)
Swift springs…fuck yeah
mistah mofro: (2010-11-24 18:43:14)
Any idea how much lower than stance these actually? The front dampeners look hella shorter compared to my KTS, hmmmm I may look into these if I find some good feedback.
adamvann3: (2010-11-25 04:10:24)
With the subaru dampers I can set the upper frame fender support/area on the top of my wheels, granted I have to remove the front lip. I would struggle to see a need to get lower than that. With 16s/low profile tire and a zenki front, i bet you could almost scrap the turbo lip.
swigger: (2010-11-25 16:32:24)
Notice on the premium stance's the bottom collar is similar to that of the " cheap " isis .
Hell if it was a known problem of them breaking , you could always gusset the collar
I'm not supporting the isis gear though, 400 bucks more for something proven… save your change for a month
Butter: (2010-11-25 19:17:22)
[quote]bleakdragonmage wrote:
the rear mounting posts look cheap as hell compared to the fully machined bottom mounts from stance.
I am not defending ISIS, just saying…
The new Stance XR premium coilver…
The XR Stance DO NOT FIT OUR ADAPTERS.
bleakdragonmage: (2010-11-25 20:15:14)
No, no they do not. They're too big. I was just pointing out the rear strut mount.
ShamWow: (2010-11-25 20:55:52)
+1[archived image: smile.png]
Next time your date says, "How about dinner and a movie" you say, "How about a hotpocket and a handjob?"
win-win
mistah mofro: (2010-11-25 21:06:22)
[quote]adamvann3 wrote:
Any idea how much lower than stance these actually? The front dampeners look hella shorter compared to my KTS, hmmmm I may look into these if I find some good feedback.
With the subaru dampers I can set the upper frame fender support/area on the top of my wheels, granted I have to remove the front lip. I would struggle to see a need to get lower than that. With 16s/low profile tire and a zenki front, i bet you could almost scrap the turbo lip.
Did order subaru stance dampeners? With s13 collars and such? I'm just trying to get the s30 grounded. In going to be using a super secret setup when get payed this month!
joeyz31na: (2010-11-26 20:03:04)
HAHA
mistah mofro: (2010-12-29 21:39:30)
[quote]adamvann3 wrote:
Any idea how much lower than stance these actually? The front dampeners look hella shorter compared to my KTS, hmmmm I may look into these if I find some good feedback.
With the subaru dampers I can set the upper frame fender support/area on the top of my wheels, granted I have to remove the front lip. I would struggle to see a need to get lower than that. With 16s/low profile tire and a zenki front, i bet you could almost scrap the turbo lip.
Adam, what i just found out from Scott at stance USA was at but beginning of this year that S13 shock body is 1.5 inches long just as long as the WRX dampeners, which he said most of the Z guys run. So whats so different about the WRX Valving?
adamvann3: (2010-12-29 22:14:32)
[quote]mistah mofro wrote: [quote=adamvann3]
Any idea how much lower than stance these actually? The front dampeners look hella shorter compared to my KTS, hmmmm I may look into these if I find some good feedback.
With the subaru dampers I can set the upper frame fender support/area on the top of my wheels, granted I have to remove the front lip. I would struggle to see a need to get lower than that. With 16s/low profile tire and a zenki front, i bet you could almost scrap the turbo lip.
Adam, what i just found out from Scott at stance USA was at but beginning of this year that S13 shock body is 1.5 inches long just as long as the WRX dampeners, which he said most of the Z guys run. So whats so different about the WRX Valving?[/quote:1woslc8g]
What you said, doesnt make sense?
mistah mofro: (2010-12-30 00:08:10)
Sorry bout that.
Why does the wrx go lower than the s13 coilovers? I thought it would be the length of the s13 shock body compared to wrx. Hope thats better. Maybe when I wake up in the afternoon i shouldn't post for a while.
DeleriousZ: (2010-12-30 01:15:09)
the body of the wrx shock is shorter i believe.
mistah mofro: (2010-12-30 12:50:56)
That's what I thought, but according to stance the s13 and wrx shock bodies are same length since the begining of this year.
adamvann3: (2010-12-30 15:35:42)
When I bought mine over 2 yrs ago I measured the WRX and s13, the WRX was an inch shorter and valved the same as the s13. They change designs yearly, they may have made a universal damper for both now.
Butter: (2010-12-31 01:14:03)
Yep, the new version of the S13 is the same length as WRX. No more confusion anymore. WHEN you guys order the forthcoming Z31 setup, they will include these dampers.