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Butter: (2013-02-11 22:56:46)
This is the thread where we post pics of clean 1st-gens. Mainly, cause most people don't know how to make them look good, or laziness. Also for kouki-swap hate, and depression from being lead astray and performing a kouki swap on our cars.
What is this kit? It looks great!
I wish this car was a lighter color so I could see what's going on here.
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Shaving the front plate mount is KEY. How come NOBODY here has this kit on their car? It would look even better if you cut all the bars out of the opening.
TearingRaven: (2013-02-11 23:20:44)
Zenki > Kouki all day every day
PrideZ31: (2013-02-11 23:42:20)
Can we talk Chuki in this thread as well?
Butter: (2013-02-11 23:58:06)
Can we talk Chuki in this thread as well?
Yes.
mdarter86: (2013-02-12 00:15:59)
AlexHxC's zenki
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ajaxism: (2013-02-12 00:18:20)
What does this person do If he needs to go over speedbumps?
G-E: (2013-02-12 00:29:16)
kouki > zenki > chuki [archived image: smile.png]
He decides to do something else ?
Switchback Motions: (2013-02-12 00:40:42)
My car isnt allowed anywhere [archived image: frown.png]
Guest: (2013-02-12 00:42:08)
You got that exactly backwards.
Chuki>zenki>kouki
designate72: (2013-02-12 01:06:46)
I agree, the fenders are what really make me consider getting rid of my 85 turbo, I like the tail lights and there are plenty of things that can happen with the front bumper. However, I really don't like how the fenders look on the car at all. So much so that I might just almost put zenki in last place after kouki.
Butter: (2013-02-12 01:17:15)
Somebody should make this.
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Guest: (2013-02-12 01:37:59)
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Butter: (2013-02-12 01:54:44)
^Needs moar low! Needs proper wheel fitment to go with that kit. So much work to blend the kit together, but plate holder isn't shaved....
This pic alone makes me want to CRY.
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Butter: (2013-02-12 02:09:23)
Should I find a zenki at the yard, I just might.
Super bored with my car.
Z-31Turbo: (2013-02-12 04:12:35)
Zenki all the way!
Shaving the front plate holder off is just the right way to go, guess I should give it a try.
adamvann3: (2013-02-12 05:11:37)
I have been digging the zenki fronts lately too.... Even stock with a turbo lip (at the correct height) look pretty good.
Ven: (2013-02-12 06:52:18)
That's the Style Auto body kit. There's a member on one of these forums that has it and has close up pictures.
Kouki + TBO lip > All
This is not bad either.
260zturbo: (2013-02-12 11:34:50)
I cut the front plate out of the AE. Still rocking the front end. Been wanting to change the bottom end though instead of the turbo lip. I like them but almost needs a little more lip.
FlyingT: (2013-02-12 14:12:23)
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edicer2: (2013-02-12 15:22:36)
Before projectors
84Zed31: (2013-02-12 15:38:26)
Butter: (2013-02-12 16:08:53)
http://www.kaminari.com/nissan-300zx…d-air-dam-1986
slammedcoupe: (2013-02-12 16:35:55)
84zed, i like your kit!
my zenki will be rocking a custom front lip soon! plan to go stock body with custom lip and low!
Butter: (2013-02-12 16:55:10)
Same kit as FlyingT with low and wheels.
MADMIKE: (2013-02-12 17:18:06)
I really want to hate that car, but I can't
Butter: (2013-02-12 18:49:53)
There's a lot I don't like about the CAR as well. But it's a nice kit with some work.
I would just chop off that whole piece of the side skirt with the vent. Don't screw the kit to the car. Ditch the wing. Low, and wheels with some poke would really tie the room together.
MADMIKE: (2013-02-12 20:11:06)
Idk continue the paint on to the lower door and you have 80s two tone glory....
jesus94p: (2013-02-13 00:18:43)
I lol'd haha
adamvann3: (2013-02-13 02:27:33)
Is that red lower blinker? I like the all red.
Axel kain: (2013-02-13 05:21:23)
well, since this is majorly a picture thread…
Z31dreams: (2013-02-13 21:42:24)
I have an 87 with a zenki front end
Ven: (2013-02-13 23:15:18)
^ So does my friend? He just got it and previous owner put an 84/85 front end on it including fenders. It's "bleh".
Axel kain: (2013-02-14 03:36:53)
figured I'd toss these in here…
NissanEgg: (2013-02-14 04:15:21)
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Z-31Turbo: (2013-02-14 04:22:50)
frostvectron: (2013-02-14 04:54:42)
Guess I'll join in:
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I am very glad I found a chuki, it's my favorite body style. I love the rear tail lights and the fenders. Factory skirts and spoiler are sweet too.
DeleriousZ: (2013-02-14 05:38:25)
Zenki… No thank you
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Greasedmonkey: (2013-02-14 06:49:44)
where would one find the style auto front air dam? After I got the euro lights I kinda want to keep this front end. Just needs an air dam for my personal tastes.
dayoldcustoms: (2013-02-14 08:04:41)
i want! i just want the headlights though lol
Butter: (2013-02-14 14:25:36)
Does the half-breed have the kouki hood still?
Gregmatic: (2013-02-14 14:37:26)
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Butter: (2013-02-14 14:48:12)
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Butter: (2013-02-14 15:13:40)
Ven: (2013-02-14 15:17:46)
The Zenki of Zenkis!
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and it wouldn't be complete without this stuffed in the engine bay.
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Butter: (2013-02-14 15:22:30)
We need more people to cut their bumper off above or below the turn signals, then drive to a aero distributor and see what fits.
slammedcoupe: (2013-02-14 16:10:04)
fuck yeah advans! and the hatch on the black one is bawsssss
adamvann3: (2013-02-20 02:46:29)
Inspiration
Ven: (2013-02-20 02:48:30)
^ Raceism! lol
FlyingT: (2013-02-20 14:46:15)
Wow, are you inspired to have an 84-85 NA automatic lowered with aftermarket wheels. I see nothing here other than a clean Z31.
Neil86t: (2013-02-20 15:32:23)
That's a turbo car. And it's amaze-balls.
FlyingT: (2013-02-20 19:05:43)
So you know whose car it is, I don't recognize it.
edicer2: (2013-02-20 19:50:01)
hmm na chrome trim but…turbo bumper and lip and i think its a auto like they said since it had the hole in the bumper and only turbo autos did i think. Its foriegn so it could be a turbo 2+2 auto..the trim is the only thing throwing it off unless not all turbos has black trim over there.
84Zed31: (2013-02-20 20:21:07)
Yeah I didn't like the orange turn signal, looked out of place to me. Tint spray FTW
84Zed31: (2013-02-20 20:28:04)
I got one for ya! Strikingly similar…
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Streetwisez31: (2013-02-21 00:59:46)
@adamvann3 do you have a link to the white zenki. I wnt to the website but couldent find it. a friend of mine has one just like that.
adamvann3: (2013-02-21 01:11:03)
I have it linked on my work computer with the full shoot. I will have take a look tomorrow.
adamvann3: (2013-02-21 01:12:19)
So simple minded. It takes a lot to achieve a nice subtle clean look no matter what z31 chassis he started with.
adamvann3: (2013-02-21 01:45:25)
Here: http://www.raceism.pl/NISSAN_300ZX_Z31_TARGA.html Plenty more pictures in the article
adamvann3: (2013-02-21 01:54:40)
Flares have potential… just needs different wheels and suspension and an axe to the spoiler
designate72: (2013-02-21 03:47:53)
The one thing I've always disliked about the Zenki 84-85s is the flares, but the above images is helping immensely to convince me that they aren't always a bad thing.
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This image of Crab's car always motivates me as well, even though the front is converted to Kouki the flares are modified Zenki. But the Zenki flares do seem to need at least a little work to look good.
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Now that is a Zenki with good bodywork. However, I don't know that the front end swap was totally necessary, that car would have looked good with the Zenki front. The late model side skirts do work well with the flares, though.
adamvann3: (2013-02-21 03:52:55)
I love the Zenki flares. I think it adds a lot of character to the car and gives it a classic look.
Granted the kouki widebody reaps benefits stuffing huge wheel sizes under them. Just depends on what your going for. I like them all.
Greasedmonkey: (2013-02-21 07:01:59)
I saw the feature on that car. Very clean car.
FlyingT: (2013-02-21 14:43:20)
Oh, so a nearly completely stock looking 84 Z31 2+2 that looks like it might have been a NA (chrome trim, missing turbo badge on the hatch) or turbo (front lip, trubo auto cooler hole, and spoiler) with aftermarket wheels has achieved a nice clean subtle look. Looks like Nissan hit a home run when it designed it stock since the only non-OEM part that you can see on the car is the wheels.
It is a nice clean looking Z31 though.
Kimbro Slice: (2013-02-21 15:19:35)
Yeah, I thought about a kouki swap before…
But everyone does that. And I do think the zenki/chuki has grown on me a hell of a lot more than the kouki ever will.
dat profile
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But yeah, zenki/chuki 4 lyfe
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slammedcoupe: (2013-02-21 16:18:06)
mine needs a wash
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Streetwisez31: (2013-02-22 00:07:41)
@adamvann3 thanks for the link
Butter: (2013-02-22 02:35:39)
LOL @ butterz31 screen name.
It's about to get weird in here.
Joe87T: (2013-02-22 02:37:26)
LOL I can't beleive it's not BUTTER!
Ven: (2013-02-22 08:24:09)
That white Z is nice and all, but it still ain't seeing this one…
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Gregmatic: (2013-02-22 13:07:14)
^ I'm not seeing what the fuss is over this one. Looks like an S13 with a riced out body kit, bleh. Has some nice touches but overall comes off as tacky.
Just my opinion, carry on
Butter: (2013-02-22 14:28:42)
I think where they went wrong was one hood vent too many, and the Z32 markers. That crap didn't even belong on a Z32.
The box flares would really pop with some less lame wheels in there.
Is that a kouki hood btw?
MADMIKE: (2013-02-22 14:43:20)
Thought the blue Z was a photoshop.
Ven: (2013-02-22 14:52:09)
I like the hood but they probably could've done w/o the front most pair as you said. I also like how they spliced an R32 GT-R bumper with the Z31 one, then went with z32 markers. It being a slick top, blue, and the rb26 helps too lol.
MADMIKE: (2013-02-22 21:26:18)
Come on bum you don't like the civic contact patch?
Quickshift: (2013-02-23 12:11:26)
I've thought about molding one of these fancy "rocket bunny" bumpers for an s13 to a z31. biggest problem is acquiring the kit, and then having the balls to cut into it.
Andrew84zx: (2013-02-23 13:55:37)
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rolling z by AndrewBKeller, on Flickr
top secret picture, lost in the archives
Butter: (2013-02-23 18:49:54)
How come not 1 person here has JDM headlight conversion?
Guest: (2013-02-23 19:04:01)
I tried to buy a set from a member but after some research he refused to sell them to anyone in a lhd due to the fact that other drivers will end up blinded by them. They are the sex though.
Ven: (2013-02-23 19:11:03)
Really? Does he or a family member work for DOT or something? Wow....
Guest: (2013-02-23 19:13:06)
I don't know, but I was disappoint.
Butter: (2013-02-23 21:39:25)
That is the gayest space shuttling thing I've read on this site in quite awhile. PM him again and tell him you have a 200zr with rusty headlights.
Guest: (2013-02-23 21:51:19)
This was 3-4 years ago. I don't even think he posts here anymore.
Butter: (2013-02-23 22:37:35)
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Where are all these strange front lips coming from? Another one I haven't seen before…
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Zenki (200zr) IMSA widebody treatment. If this isn't a made for Z31 deal, then I would guess it's the kit for a SA22C.
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Butter: (2013-02-23 22:53:00)
A model, but super cool!
http://www.works-y3f.com/m_cars/3_jp…Z31/E1/E1.html
Greasedmonkey: (2013-02-24 05:25:10)
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I want the air dam thats on the blueish silver car.
DeleriousZ: (2013-02-24 07:30:45)
I want to shake this man's hand. I fucking hate it when people drive with poorly set up lighting on their cars. I know because i was 'that guy' for a little while. My suby had JDM HID's installed before I bought it, which had a proper cutoff line, but a rhd beam pattern. It still blinded oncoming drivers like there was no cutoff line at all. I got highbeamed any time I was on a non-major highway. Do it right, or leave them alone.
floridaZ: (2013-02-24 15:27:06)
I'm pretty sure those are both Kaminari.
Neil86t: (2013-02-25 14:34:05)
I'll bite:
Trbulnt: (2013-02-25 18:17:13)
Love the Zenki!
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Butter: (2013-02-25 20:00:54)
Are those wheels polished?
They might be my old wheels. Worked a LONGGGG time on those suckers back in the day.
Yet another strange zenki air dam as well!
300zxturboftw: (2013-02-25 20:37:30)
Must…shave…number plate…
Pissed I didn't do it when I repainted it last year. Oh well, only a hundred bucks I bet to redo.
Careless: (2013-02-25 20:45:07)
damnnn sonnn. the one on the right… i want an 86 now [archived image: frown.png]
Butter: (2013-02-25 21:32:26)
Yessssss.
Shaved number plate and this lip=winning combination.
http://www.kaminari.com/nissan-300zx…d-air-dam-1986
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Another pic of the StyleAuto jam..
http://www.styleauto.de/nissan/nissan_menue.htm
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The one on this kouki looks like you can "make it work" because of the way it attaches.
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Their semi-shaved rear looks like ass, but I think it would be easy to chop out that middle section and put a more updated diffuser. So this....
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....with the dated-looking center cut out, and replaced with something like this, that is all over ebay.
Ven: (2013-02-27 14:40:54)
I didn't think the center of the bumper looked bad.
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ZinnZ32: (2013-02-27 21:57:48)
Your Z is beautiful! Just great
This is why 86's are the best. Those taillights are done perfectly! I like how you opened them up and put clear diffuser patterns in the housings. Well done.
Also, I am not a big fan of tinted tailights, but the way you did it (tinted clear coat) is very nice as well. I can appreciate them when I know they were done properly, unlike that shitty spray tint!
Ven: (2013-02-27 23:11:29)
Awe, and here I was thinking that "shitty spray tint" looked cool
I probably wouldn't do mine that dark though.
ZinnZ32: (2013-02-27 23:56:13)
Nope, it's just shit. Sorry [archived image: smile.png]
It might look nice from 5 ft when new, but give it a couple weeks of washing, UV rays, and then see how appealing that nice purple-swirl taillight look is!
Nice Z though, the red/black is a good contrast. Factory maroon/darker red is classy
Butter: (2013-02-28 15:34:14)
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I'm not a fan of these Pantera hatches, but the wing (probably custom) and the rear lip (unknown) is interesting.
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Ven: (2013-02-28 16:15:28)
Looks the same as my Avante rear wing.
inqui-Z-tor: (2013-02-28 16:17:51)
I was thinking that it was the Avante rear wing too.
As for the diffuser .. it looks like Modern Garage …
Ven: (2013-02-28 16:20:21)
Going off this picture I'm gonna say 95% Avante. Take note of the corners.
Switchback Motions: (2013-02-28 16:59:05)
Most likely Avante
emmanuel20t: (2013-03-01 07:11:04)
Has anyone ever done a zenki front on a kouki body? I saw a picture of a gray japanese one and I was wondering if anyone else has done it.
Ven: (2013-03-01 13:17:11)
Friend mine bought an 87 na from someone with a 84/85 front end on it. Not even lined up or anything. I told him the car was probably in an accident.
michaelp: (2013-03-01 19:28:23)
I've wanted that fascia for my 86 for ages....
michaelp: (2013-03-01 19:31:45)
Stock 85-86 turbo tail lights are smoked, the only thing aftermarket/custom on Neils is the smoked clear lowers.
Butter: (2013-03-01 21:19:08)
http://www.kaminari.com/nissan-300zx…d-air-dam-1986
1.Click "Add to Cart"
2.Put on car.
3.Take pics.
4.Post in this thread and collect those HJ's.
Mr0ddrft: (2013-03-02 00:08:11)
Heres my 86, dont mind my sunken fugly advan drift spares [archived image: smile.png]
Mr0ddrft: (2013-03-02 00:39:20)
if u have a sharp eye you will notice the drivers side has an 84 front fender (left over from my white Z) and the factory 86 passenger side fender.
Also i was toying with the idea of purchasing a SHINE AUTO rear diffuser for an FD rx7 and seeing if i could make it work what do you guys think
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Ven: (2013-03-02 01:30:34)
Get a matching 86+ fender.
Mr0ddrft: (2013-03-02 06:00:27)
eh not really too concerned about that the whole car is freshly painted and no one notices unless i mention it
Careless: (2013-03-02 19:57:49)
buying a shine auto RX7 diffuser is not going to outweight the fact that you have mismatched fenders, which looks stupid.
you asked what we think. that's what i think. get a matching fender first.
the design/look of the diffuser doesn't match anything on the z31 anyways. so it would also look less than appealing.
Ven: (2013-03-02 21:52:38)
On a side note, did you paint the car "freshly" under your ownership or was it that way before you got it? If it was under your ownership, I'd like to understand why time wasn't taken to throw on a cheap fender (I've bought one for $40) and then paint the whole car ?
michaelp: (2013-03-02 22:04:23)
To say "no one notices" is ignorant, because I noticed immediately before reading anything. lol
michaelp: (2013-03-02 22:05:01)
Yup, I've known where to buy it for all of the ages I've wanted it…but I like my stock turbo lip, too. :P
michaelp: (2013-03-02 22:06:24)
My battleship as fuck (these wheels are gone now, not sure whats next but something not off another car) 86T. Its all original paint and such except the hood has been replaced.
Ven: (2013-03-02 22:07:10)
+1 on buying the louvered lip
Butter: (2013-03-02 23:55:47)
That lip looks saggy and terrible. Need upgrade.
michaelp: (2013-03-03 01:42:07)
Yeah…I blame the front mount…lol
Trbulnt: (2013-03-03 06:42:42)
They are polished. I bought the car from an older fella 2.5 hours north of Milwaukee last spring.
Butter: (2013-03-03 15:56:15)
Yeah, I want to say that's Ole88na/85t's old ride.
MADMIKE: (2013-03-03 16:18:14)
Proudear's blog.
Mr0ddrft: (2013-03-03 17:49:29)
For 2 months all i found in my area were dented and/or rotted fenders. At that point i was ready to get the car back together and be driving again. I can't tell my fenders dont match from inside my car while im shredding. I'd rather have that problem than be riding around 4x4 as fuck on stock wheels like 99% of other Z31's
Switchback Motions: (2013-03-03 17:57:29)
Couldn't replace the fender properly, but you painted it anyways?? I'd rather be 4x4 on stock wheels than a freshly painted chuki confused about it's sexuality.
Ven: (2013-03-03 23:53:07)
Oh Snap! LOL
Kutakino: (2013-03-04 01:33:59)
I like to imagine it as lop-sided boobies
FlyingT: (2013-03-04 15:34:20)
Still fun to play with. lol
Butter: (2013-03-08 15:40:35)
260zturbo: (2013-03-08 17:14:20)
this just keeps getting better and better!!
Butter: (2013-03-08 18:11:26)
The first page of this thread.
http://z31performance.com/showthread…lmost-stock-ae
TurboZcaR: (2013-03-08 19:42:27)
Pure Sex, I want/need that front bumper mod!
adamvann3: (2013-03-09 00:57:05)
With the kaminari and head light covers it has the conquest look going on. Head light covers play well with vent.
adamvann3: (2013-03-09 01:01:28)
Lets not forget the dual facia mod..........
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adamvann3: (2013-03-09 01:12:19)
Model car or not, pretty dope
adamvann3: (2013-03-09 01:14:00)
turblown: (2013-03-09 02:20:16)
Those dished turbo wheels, oh SNAP! *drooling*
Mutant-Z: (2013-03-11 05:13:14)
grandnastalgia
This bumper with shaved emblem and liscense plate and lowered is clean.
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Ven: (2013-03-11 21:43:39)
They shaved the bumper then put the license plate back in the same spot.
Butter: (2013-03-13 18:06:22)
So many different aero, yet NOBODY has them on their cars.
Another strange lip.
-Strike-: (2013-03-13 18:51:34)
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michaelp: (2013-03-14 00:03:54)
I photoshopped....give me some time [archived image: wink.png]
Careless: (2013-03-14 00:21:32)
how easy is it to convert a kouki (8 into a zenki style body (pre-86).
my 88 is round, and i'm liking some of the front bumpers I'm seeing here but I also have some wiiiiiide fender flares that I can't fit on the kouki arches.
then I guess the challenge would be headlights and hood, right?
Ven: (2013-03-14 00:35:27)
All you need to swap front ends are hood, headlights, and bumper. Fenders don't matter. Both front ends have been installed and sold on both types of fenders (non flared and flared).
Careless: (2013-03-14 00:43:18)
but i want the 85 style fenders. they allow more room to attach fender flares to. in the rear it doesn't matter as much, but in the front, the feder arch on the kouki goes too high up to get the proper fastening that i desire.
michaelp: (2013-03-14 01:25:53)
floridaZ: (2013-03-14 01:39:17)
Unbolt fenders. Bolt new fenders on. Am I missing something here?
Pace: (2013-03-14 04:10:47)
It could go lower, wider, etc. but why mess with [near] perfection?
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adamvann3: (2013-03-14 04:19:10)
I hear ya.
mizagyu: (2013-03-14 04:43:49)
forget the lip gimme the motor!XD
Mutant-Z: (2013-03-14 06:50:14)
Yeah most people dont have original thoughts or plans
michaelp: (2013-03-14 12:54:46)
Simple & clean is where its at, and zenki/chukis pull it off perfectly....koukis look like too much of an afterthought.
Parker: (2013-03-14 13:14:21)
That's funny, I feel that same way. I'm not into plastic bumper strips or lumpy taillights.
Neil86t: (2013-03-14 13:21:00)
If I see a hood propped up like that AE I am gonna sit on it.
Z-31Turbo: (2013-03-14 16:23:47)
Been thinking of a vent on the front bumper to bring some cold air in for the intake.
Been looking on ebay last night, and I've found the trans am 87 vent are pretty much what I'm looking for.
What do you guys think? Way better looking than most of the aftermarket vent I've seen & available for cheap.
I would put only one and the 'driver side' of the bumper.
That with a shaved license plate would make my kouki look good, thought?
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Pace: (2013-03-14 16:42:08)
Careless: (2013-03-14 17:10:51)
don't do it. although the vents are nice, any holes on the z31 front bumper (especially between the headlights) looks ridiculous, out of place, and tacky. I would get a spare hood and make a drop vent. That would get more air to flow through the entire front bumper and cool the car much better as well as look proper if you place and design it well. I'm only saying this because I'm pretty sure you have the skill to do it without screwing it up or making it ugly :-) But don't cut the bumper please.
Ven: (2013-03-14 21:38:08)
What about this? Not really between headlights though.
floridaZ: (2013-03-14 22:45:36)
Anything Proudear doesn't count.
Tomakze: (2013-03-15 07:04:47)
I suppose I'll post mine. +1 for louvered headlights? I think it totally makes the look of the Zenki:
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Butter: (2013-03-15 17:17:53)
I think any louvers look terrible IMO. They should have died with disco.
That reminds me, I'm surprised I haven't seen a z31 with blacked out HL area similar to the Camaro. It kind of creates the same effect.
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michaelp: (2013-03-15 17:21:08)
Will you be my best friend? lol
Pace: (2013-03-15 17:55:31)
Not a fan of blacked out headlight buckets. Looks like someone gave it two black eyes. Too "done told ya twice" style.
Careless: (2013-03-15 18:07:12)
or maybe its a car that gets into street fights and can still look straight.
TearingRaven: (2013-03-15 18:30:25)
What about the later 280ZX hood vents? I dig them [archived image: smile.png]
turblown: (2013-03-15 18:44:52)
*head nod* Those do look pretty sweet!
Tomakze: (2013-03-16 05:29:15)
I guess I'm alone. Mind you, I only like the lights louvered. The hatch area ends up looking huge and hideous when louvered.
The louvered lights make the car look like it's wearing sunglasses, and angry. Like a proper '80s action hero. lol.
Neil86t: (2013-03-19 14:28:21)
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Gregmatic: (2013-03-19 14:45:12)
That is F*in awesome ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
Guest: (2013-03-19 15:40:02)
That really is awesome.
DeleriousZ: (2013-03-19 15:49:08)
Can't see the boom arm, photoshopped, not a real picture. etc
Neil86t: (2013-03-19 16:05:29)
Keeping it fake Zenki bro.
frostvectron: (2013-03-19 17:00:22)
Where's a good place to put the front plate when you shave the bumper? I am thinking bottom off to the side somewhere. It just seems silly to put it back in the same spot afterward. Anyone have opinions on this?
Also is the front plate mount a solid block or do you have to fill up a giant hole afterward?
dragon84: (2013-03-19 17:08:58)
I need that hood for my '86 [archived image: frown.png]
adamvann3: (2013-03-20 00:50:36)
The point of shaving the front bumper is to NOT run a front plate. If you plan on running one, then leave it as is. It is not a solid block.
Great shot Neil!
Must have been hard to have the truck next to you at perfectly matched speed during the corner with a steady photographer standing up.
Guest: (2013-03-20 00:54:14)
I know, fucking new York's stupid 2 tags kept my front end from being sexier.
adamvann3: (2013-03-20 00:59:09)
Same as WI, but I havent ran one in 5yrs, well at least on the kouki. Police have better things to do then issue fix it tickets.
Neil86t: (2013-03-20 12:39:28)
I wanted to shave my bumper since I seen butter's car when it was mostly stock and only getting like 2-3 tug jobs.
Butter: (2013-03-20 14:19:09)
You mean when I shaved it off, and left the hole for a cold air intake?
I wish I could go back in time and slap myself sometimes.
My car after hand polishing the wheels, and buying hideous capri pants....
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Neil86t: (2013-03-20 14:24:32)
Yes but obviously didn't want the hole lol.
adamvann3: (2013-03-22 01:48:42)
ah the man-pri's. Is there a satchel in the part you cutoff?
Kimbro Slice: (2013-03-22 18:36:55)
Neil, you're making me jealous with the hektik shots of the car.
Crappy cell phone pic y0
Ven: (2013-03-23 16:10:03)
Kimbro, your Z is ready for the Pikes Peak hill climb challenge!
I kid I kid. lol
michaelp: (2013-03-23 16:17:48)
Hes kidding about kidding.
zlover23: (2013-03-26 18:41:37)
'86 FTW
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inqui-Z-tor: (2013-03-29 01:25:51)
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Kimbro Slice: (2013-03-30 08:27:06)
Jokes on you, I think it'd be sweet to rally race the damn thing up Pikes Peak. Mad hektik skidz everywhere [archived image: tongue.png]
1sikz: (2013-03-30 11:41:11)
There are two Z31's that currently hold the first two spots in south Florida's RallyCross…
Butter: (2013-04-05 13:35:44)
I think if you absolutely had to put a GT wing on a Z31, this would be the way to do it, matching the angle of the tail lights.
Careless: (2013-04-05 13:38:25)
looks kinda cool. never seen it mounted like that.
Joe87T: (2013-04-05 16:43:17)
Hear Hear!!!!! stupid front plate
inqui-Z-tor: (2013-04-05 19:31:04)
But is opening the hatch still viable?
floridaZ: (2013-04-06 03:15:08)
Could be, depends on how the supports are built. They'd have to be customized to fit the Z anyway so…
michaelp: (2013-04-06 13:58:56)
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Careless: (2013-04-06 13:59:50)
those zenki front bumpers is so ugree
michaelp: (2013-04-06 22:12:25)
So don't look at them.
Careless: (2013-04-07 00:12:03)
or i can look at them and comment on them? yeah. i think i'll do that instead.
Tomakze: (2013-04-07 04:08:21)
I don't like the Zenki front bumper unless it has louvered headlights, or at least the plastic headlight covers. Maybe I'm just biased because my first car was a Kouki. Still, the smoked Zenki tails are hawt. I'm beginning to agree with what nearly everyone says… Best look is an '86T with the kouki front end and an SS lip. Wet dream material from every angle. Not that I don't like the Zenki, obviously, as that is what I own, lol!
Pace: (2013-04-08 02:33:09)
Originally, I didn't care for the Zenki bumper. There are still some angles that look funny, but overall it's grown on me. On mine… I feel the fog lights help to balance out the front. At least helps with the upper bumper overhang. If only they weren't so finicky.
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Too bad it's battleshipped to hell.
Ven: (2013-04-08 15:32:29)
[http://[video=youtube_share;iJnyjJ1KB3M http://youtu.be/iJnyjJ1KB3M[/video]] https://youtu.be/iJnyjJ1KB3M]
Really liking the clear headlight covers on this Z. Pretty much everything on that Z is nice.
and if anyone notices, he has a louver shade on the inside of his hatch
Tomakze: (2013-04-08 23:52:53)
Sexy car, TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE editing. Wow. I like the kit and the headlight covers though, it really shows off the Zenki's good side!
Butter: (2013-04-09 02:47:46)
That car might have looked awesome with MC Hammer blasting out of the speakers, but it just looks so ungainly nowadays. It's very cluttered-looking. Also, those clear plastic headlight things look just like what they are, cheap plastic panels from Home Depot.....IMHO. Throw them on the pile with your rear window louvers to be blown up.
As for the driving. This guy actually seems pretty good. I'm guessing the car is open-diffed, with a boost-up, probably 250hp. It's hard as hell to slide, and he makes up for it with speed and balls. You can hear the chirp as he prematurely regains traction, despite still at WOT. He could have kept it going with clutch kicking, but it probably wasn't invented yet! This is actually a pretty famous video in the drifting community as it's one of the oldest known films. My friends and I all laugh at it, while at the same time wondering who the hell this guy was (or became).
Kimbro Slice: (2013-04-09 03:31:28)
frostvectron: (2013-04-09 03:44:29)
That guy is also pretty ballsy to have his plates in the video too.
I remember the old "pluspy" vids that Keiichi Tsuchiya took back in the 80s when he was drifting his AE86 through mountain passes that got his racing license suspended.
Axel kain: (2013-04-09 05:37:15)
Jaqattack02's, I just rolled it off the alignment rack. still a Chuki for now, havent swapped the nose!
Careless: (2013-04-09 13:19:48)
terrible editing? that thing was probably filmed using a cam-corder the size of your engine, onto a VHS tape, and cut and spliced together with an exacto knife and scotch tape.
spoiled, are we?
Tomakze: (2013-04-09 19:24:14)
Perhaps I am, but that doesn't change the fact that it jumps scenes so fast sometimes that it is disorienting. Just because it is old, doesn't excuse it! Bad editing is bad editing. Still, cool car.
Guest: (2013-04-09 19:46:25)
Never edit a video on meth.
NissanXRMA: (2013-04-09 19:47:35)
Careless just needed something to say.
Kimbro Slice: (2013-04-11 05:12:24)
84Zed31: (2013-04-11 06:38:50)
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Out with the Kaminari, in with a Volvo lip. Straight zip-tie on
Careless: (2013-04-11 10:48:20)
Or was it you that needed something to say?
At least my previous post actually made a good point.
wait, I have a new idea for a forum.
lets all have these boxes that say "post reply".
but we sneakily remove the reply button so no one says anything.
best online community ever.
Neil86t: (2013-04-11 12:48:18)
I still wanna M Coupe.
frostvectron: (2013-04-11 17:25:47)
Yet that video still blows most z31 videos on youtube today out of the water.
Ven: (2013-04-11 21:05:46)
This. [archived image: rolleyes.png]
Butter: (2013-04-18 18:32:04)
Ancient adapter panel to fit S30 tails.
http://ord.yahoo.co.jp/o/auction/SIG…ion/v240197477
Careless: (2013-04-18 18:43:45)
Want!
errrr… maybe not:
shitty photoshop
Butter: (2013-04-18 18:56:41)
Put a plate on it. I assume there was once a missing center panel there as well.
Careless: (2013-04-18 18:58:56)
they should also be smaller and above the small trim piece that goes underneath the stockers, but i closed the file already. :-P
would look cool on a clean car, i guess.
the late 260/280z always had my fav taillights.
michaelp: (2013-04-19 19:35:37)
I'm not sure what you're talking about, because the pictures in that link are 100000% S30 parts, even the black surrounds/"adapters" -.- In fact, I'm 100% positive that the Z31 in the description is simply a mistake from the person who posted the listing. Japanese people can be stupid and mix up cars, too.
Ven: (2013-04-20 00:13:10)
Looks ugly on a Z31 anyway.
Showaski39: (2013-04-21 17:39:35)
Your not supposed to see the boom arm (as long as they chopped it out of the picture).
Looks real to me
Kimbro Slice: (2013-04-22 17:34:01)
Sarcasm.
michaelp: (2013-07-04 01:59:11)
Pace: (2013-07-04 04:37:51)
First set of coilovers? [archived image: tongue.png]
michaelp: (2013-07-04 05:03:12)
eh?
frostvectron: (2013-07-11 04:52:49)
Just because the "keep it kouki" thread got bumped with some love [archived image: rolleyes.png]:
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Kimbro Slice: (2013-07-11 06:00:38)
As always, keep it zenki/chuki Z31P.
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Butter: (2013-07-11 11:57:50)
What antenna is that?
NissanEgg: (2013-07-11 12:24:23)
OEM RC-car antenna lulz.
Kimbro Slice: (2013-07-11 18:18:50)
I thought 86's had the antenna on the passenger side? At least I've seen 86's with them on the pass. side.
michaelp: (2013-07-11 18:48:03)
They're all on the drivers side. My car had a 2-way radio in it at one point, so it had an antenna on the pass side. I've had other Z31s with this too, including a 89.
adamvann3: (2013-07-17 01:21:24)
Not sure if I have seen this one yet in the thread
300zxturboftw: (2013-07-17 02:06:04)
Shaved front bumper is my next mod. Can't believe I didn't do that when I painted it.
Greasedmonkey: (2013-07-17 02:08:05)
sweet looking zenki!
Careless: (2013-07-17 02:13:54)
Jdswheelsfuuuuuuuu
Kimbro Slice: (2013-07-17 02:17:11)
^this
slammedcoupe: (2013-07-18 13:56:54)
x3^
that car is the secks
Big Slappy Z: (2013-07-18 21:52:39)
x4
Ven: (2013-07-19 01:09:36)
I mean it's ok. LOL If anything it's really the wheels that make it stand out. Put those same wheels on a kouki and then see which car is really sex. rofl
slammedcoupe: (2013-07-19 03:18:36)
I think its been beaten to death the kouki has a sexy face, the zenki has the sexy ass
michaelp: (2013-07-19 11:44:08)
Zenki turbo is the best looking..stock for stock especially. Koukis are meh without an aftermarket lip. IMO
Big Slappy Z: (2013-07-19 13:25:43)
.
adamvann3: (2013-07-19 15:17:03)
Both designs have their own uniqueness about them. The Kouki is curvy, has wide hips, refined feel and can be pulled towards a more updated aftermarket (ie big wheels/low profile tires, front lip ect…). Zenkis have sharp lines, boxiness, and very nostalgic feel and to me look best when keeping towards that 80s early 90s theme similar to what the AE86 provides. Looks best when keeping to era specific look (refined 15-16 wheels, with little bit of meat on the tires ect…)
Now I have seen fine examples of both, even modified outside of those specifications… but the devil is always in the details. Shaved front bumper, JDS wheels… no one can argue that isnt a good looking zenki.
michaelp: (2013-07-19 17:30:15)
I like old-school 80s style y0
Ven: (2013-07-19 23:20:36)
Stock for stock the 88 SS is the best looking Z31 IMO since it came with a factory lip.
michaelp: (2013-07-19 23:22:37)
Ugly wheels are ugly though. 86Ts have the best stock wheels, lip, fascia, tail lights, side skirts....lol :P IMO
Ven: (2013-07-19 23:25:10)
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Those are the best stock wheels LOL (the German ones). The sideskirt is goes perfectly with the lip and I like how it goes up the side of the car. The car is lowered and that's it.
Lets not even start on the fog lights and front fascia. HAHA
Pace: (2013-07-20 01:16:59)
JDS wheels look out of place on a Kouki, IMO. The spokes are sharply cut and angled, much like the body lines of a Zenki.
Kinda pointless to repeatedly claim that a Kouki is the best looking Z31 in a Zenki thread, don't you think?
michaelp: (2013-07-20 01:17:42)
Those are JDS wheels…they werent stock on any Nissan ever. They're aftermarket.
Ven: (2013-07-20 02:03:45)
I thought some of the Germany Z31s were sold with them? Aren't they known as JDS OEM wheels?
Careless: (2013-07-20 02:07:23)
You just thought that up? lol.
They are OEM wheels recreated by Japan Datsun Service.
Someone posted here that they were once OEM wheels that were widened at one point.
Then they were recreated completely.
You can have almost any wheel widened if you go to the proper place. There is someone in Ontario who does it.
FrozenZ: (2013-07-20 11:47:16)
This is relevant to my zenki interests, if you don't hafta dig out the entire interwebs to find out. adamvann did kinda nail it, zenkis look better if you keep them period-correct or very close to it.
Careless: (2013-07-20 17:19:19)
http://www.carcone.com/wheel-refinishing.html?tabID=32
carcone's used to do it. not sure if they do anymore.
adamvann3: (2013-07-26 01:58:29)
Been really digging the nostalgia of "inner louvers" lately. Very nice subltle 80s touch. My guess they are next to impossible to find anymore.
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Granted they dont look overly difficult to make your own.
inqui-Z-tor: (2013-07-26 04:22:57)
I'm liking the inner louvers look also. The only application I've seen on a z31 is in a Japanese Z sales brochure. Until then, I didn't know they even made those. None of the USA sales brochures showed them. They remind me of Venetian Blinds .. I recall interior blinds fitted to station wagons and passenger vans in the 60s/70s …
The only thing I'd be wary of is the noise they'd make (rattles) just from the road traveling …
Then again, paper or plastic blinds "today" would cut down on the "noise" … .?
inqui-Z-tor: (2013-07-26 04:28:14)
The JDS wheels (as a reference name) were made for the German Market .. available originally only there. Hence their desirability even in Japan.
Is there a German equivalent of eBay? Or Rinkya? … LOL .. My German is weaker than my Japanese .. I don't have any Z contacts in Germany ..
Kimbro Slice: (2013-07-26 04:37:54)
I've seen a 50th AE that was imported back to Japan that has some inner-louvers.
jaqattack02: (2013-07-26 14:44:38)
frostvectron: (2013-07-26 17:44:27)
For shaving the front plate bump, how should you fill in the hole? I have never done body work before.. any guides for a nub?
Careless: (2013-07-26 17:52:28)
bond some styrene or resin-safe plastic to the inside of the bumper and then lay some nicely cut pieces of fiberglass edge to edge in the hole. then body filler + glazing putty. shouldn't take more than 3-4 hours from start to paint-ready product (drying time not included).
then you can get a kouki plate holder and try and make use of it for legal reasons if need be.
actually. if you could cleanly cut the hole and then bond the plastic on the inside and cut a thin piece to go on the front where the hole is… if there's some product like a panel bond that you can smear over the edges where they meet that is more resilient and can flex in different weather conditions (maybe panel bond does this well?) then you can skip the fibreglassing and just panel bond it in.
styrene can be found a model car shops in different thicknesses. you should be able to find one that is the same thickness or close to the stock Z bumper thickness.
adamvann3: (2013-07-26 18:19:21)
Its the complexity of the OEM facia being urethane and filling in the plate area/bonding. Careless addresses it with weather concern, or even if the front facia flexes it will crack or break out.
Proudear makes and FRP replacement with shaved plate.
Careless: (2013-07-26 18:27:43)
i would use this stuff
http://www.lord.com/products-and-sol…roduct.xml/298
adamvann3: (2013-07-26 18:31:23)
The one I posted
JRawz300: (2013-07-27 00:46:25)
Have all the parts for the front end conversion but the zenki front end is really growing on me..
My dirty driveway ornament [archived image: z31T_zpsb2695c71.jpg]
adamvann3: (2013-07-27 01:04:43)
Keep it. CV Mesh wheels fit really nice.
Careless: (2013-07-27 01:06:28)
man i really don't know why nissan didn't continue the black stripe the same size from front to back. it would have looked so much better!!!!
Tomakze: (2013-07-27 02:19:31)
I dig it! That thing looks way better than mine!
frostvectron: (2013-07-27 05:41:45)
Thanks for the info on the shaved plate thing.... I have a spare AE fascia and an 86T lip that I might play with later.... everything would need to be painted so might as well shave that plate! (You guys that responded might get a PM from me in like 3 months when I am finally unlazy enough to do something about it..).
Kimbro Slice: (2013-07-29 04:36:07)
HELL YEAH. Finally some pics of another car rocking some CV meshies.
Feelsgoodman.jpeg
Kimbro Slice: (2013-07-29 04:38:14)
Derp. There's a picture of it from the rear that really shows you the louvers and I guess I just didn't put two and two together.
floridaZ: (2013-07-30 03:26:42)
So am I the only one who thinks that the hood scoop on the turbos makes or breaks the zenkis?
slammedcoupe: (2013-07-30 15:36:45)
looks good on zenkis, would look horrible on a chuki
Big Slappy Z: (2013-07-30 16:15:43)
+1
floridaZ: (2013-07-30 22:09:56)
I loved my 86 with a scoop.
jaqattack02: (2013-07-31 01:56:58)
So does it look terrible on an AE too? A chuki is basically the same thing.
Tomakze: (2013-07-31 05:06:17)
Yeah, I'm lost on why a scoop would look bad on an '86. The car is more similar to a Zenki than a Kouki. The average joe can't even tell the difference at first glance.
Actually, if I end up doing a kouki front end swap, I plan to integrate a scoop somehow. Either a Zenki scoop, a generic one, or I make one. I
Kimbro Slice: (2013-07-31 05:26:48)
I like the scoop on my AE. Just something about it looks good in my eyes.
slammedcoupe: (2013-07-31 14:56:46)
ae it works in my opinion as the rear arches are "bolt on"
the 86 has widened rear arches with sheet metal does it not?
personally I don't like the pre/86 cars
id rather have a 240/260z or an s30
jaqattack02: (2013-07-31 15:14:47)
They are, but the rear of the 86 is shaped exactly the same as the AE. There just isn't a seam there for the attached flares. Front fenders are exactly the same.
G-E: (2013-07-31 18:49:18)
The 200zr-II scoop on the kouki looks good because it matches the body style, as the 84 turbo scoop on zenki/chuki matches the angularity
slammedcoupe: (2013-07-31 23:45:40)
while they may be the "same" to you, they are definatly not the same to me.
if the AE flares were molded that may be a different story, but they totally change the look of the car from the formed metal widebody of the 86.
anyways that's just my opinion, im quite partial to the clean/sleek look that the 86 has compared to the previous years.
it doesn't really matter much anyways, im planning a kouki front swap to tie into my build
Ven: (2013-07-31 23:54:29)
86+ flares are the best of all. AE fender flares just look like aftermarket tacked on pieces.
And +1 on what GE said.
adamvann3: (2013-09-09 19:21:02)
DeleriousZ: (2013-09-09 20:52:05)
Someone at Speedhunters must have a z31 fetish lol
G-E: (2013-09-09 21:59:19)
Thats a good thing [archived image: smile.png]
michaelp: (2013-09-10 00:43:08)
That car..is about exactly how I'd want a 84-85T lol
inqui-Z-tor: (2013-09-10 01:03:51)
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G-E: (2013-09-10 01:19:20)
You need more angular wheels on it inq, preferrably two-tone with stepped lip [archived image: smile.png]
frostvectron: (2013-09-10 01:22:54)
Quiz, I was never a fan of the headlight louvers 'til that photo! Gorgeous.
inqui-Z-tor: (2013-09-10 13:56:06)
Someday (?) .. I want either ADVAN's or SSR's .. but "old school" .. both NLA.
If I can find either at a price …
Until then .. These will do …
inqui-Z-tor: (2013-09-10 13:59:44)
Well .. not my photo (a friend's work) .. but thank you.
It's was interesting .. the Ferrari next to me got lots of attention (as it should) .. but a lot of "kids" .. 5-10 (or so) and > 40 .. "showed the love" of the Z31 .. LOL!
frostvectron: (2013-09-11 00:49:02)
http://wheelflip.com/listing/49/ssr-…16x8-1-5x1143/
SSR's you say?
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inqui-Z-tor: (2013-09-11 01:07:45)
These
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With this ..
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To achieve this ....
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I wanted these wheels in '84 .. But having just purchasing the Z .. I couldn't afford these. At the time, they retailed at $800-$900 per wheel.
G-E: (2013-09-11 01:31:30)
Too busy for the car, fine if you do gtc laps and need ultimate aerodynamics with good brake cooling, but standing still they won't look good after the initial giddy feeling wears off
Ven: (2013-09-11 03:09:00)
Yeah, unless you're racing down the Mulsanne Straight, stay way from those
- horrid
frostvectron: (2013-09-11 03:47:15)
I think they look much better without the covers, but I do understand that the covers are total unobtanium and are bad ass because of that.
SSR EX-C are damn rare. If you're into the fins though, I know that Weddsport also used to make them back in the way (Weddsport Bavaria). I think some old Works wheels also had the fin style. I haven't seen a set of those covers, ever, though.
inqui-Z-tor: (2013-09-11 12:13:54)
HA .. If I ever get that chance .. I'd break out the covers for sure!
707Redz31: (2013-09-11 13:17:36)
Do want! On either z!
adamvann3: (2013-09-11 15:17:57)
The only place I see SSR EX-C pop up regularly is on http://imadeskidmarks.com/ . But you are going to be hard pressed to find them in 5x114.3 faces
inqui-Z-tor: (2013-09-11 23:14:51)
Unfortunately, I think you're 100% correct. I've never come across 'em in 5x114.3 …
ToiletFlush: (2013-09-12 00:29:09)
Here's a pic of my buddy's 84
michaelp: (2013-09-12 00:41:20)
Should be under Kouki since its kouki nose swapped. Thats the point of these threads, is to support zenki front end.
Ven: (2013-09-12 02:19:17)
Looks better this way. :P
Would look even more badass with a TBO lip. And with matching rear wheels.
Pace: (2013-09-12 04:37:00)
Get that kouki + TBO bizz out of here.
Panasport g7 + Kaminari + Chuki
tatsu: (2013-09-12 08:45:07)
I can't stand the early Z31 over bite front bumper, or the narrow body… blehhh
adamvann3: (2013-09-12 14:39:55)
Pace;346920 wrote: Get that kouki + TBO bizz out of here.
Panasport g7 + Kaminari + Chuki
michaelp: (2013-09-12 15:32:19)
The mind-fuck I've always had about that car though, is while it looks like a Kaminari front kinda…the currently-available Kaminari front has more "louvers" in it.
michaelp: (2013-09-12 15:32:42)
Good for you. I can't stand Koukis without front lips. They look like wannabe miatas.
Pace: (2013-09-12 15:42:18)
Non-louvred version? http://www.kaminari.com/nissan-300zx-air-dam-frp-1986
Full pic:
adamvann3: (2013-09-12 16:07:40)
Yeah, the louvered one always threw me for a loop, but has been growing on me, but as Pace pointed out they do make the non louvered version as well. There are pictures of an AE in j-land with this installed. I think the shaved front plate plays a lot into how it flows.
I love everything about this car, the color, JDS wheels in a gun metal… just a winning combination. Wish I could find more pictures of it.
michaelp: (2013-09-12 16:15:48)
Indeed. I really want that air dam for my car, but I'd likely break it drifting…and thats a big chunk of change just to break the first time out.
Tempast: (2013-09-12 19:23:56)
http://www.styleauto.de/nissan/nissan_menue.htm
I love the Zenki StyleAuto kit. I was planning on getting the mk1 MR2 kit before I got my Z. They used the same design for the rear bumper on both kits lol. I've never seen a 2+2 look so good. Proud to own such a looker. [archived image: biggrin.png]
FlyingT: (2013-09-12 20:03:37)
Overbite, what overbite? Depends on the air dam used, and most of the Kouki's in their own thread have an aftermarket air dam.
I like the way the Zenki front bumper kind of continues the body like curve. The Kouki front bumper looks likes like a blunt end.
The perfect Z31, Kouki front end (because I like the smaller headlights and separate driving lamps) on an 86T body because I like the 84-86 rear ends better with the wide body fenders. If you are a 240Z purists, the Zenki and Chouki rear end is old school, like the 240Z. The 87 Kouki rear end was the first Z car without separate tail lights with the license plate in between. Putting the plate on the bumper on the Kouki looks crappy with the BIG bumperettes.
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Ven: (2013-09-12 21:40:04)
The overbite is obvious.
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The top/middle of the bumper sticks out far beyond the bottom part. It's as if someone removed a person's bottom lip. It really does need an air/dam to correct. (The stock zenki turbo lip does little to correct this).
Koukis even w/o a lip have far less overbite.
michaelp: (2013-09-12 21:45:35)
I like the stock turbo lip though.
Pace: (2013-09-12 22:45:38)
Several other sports cars in the early-mid 80s had that same bumper "overhang"; Starion/Conquest specifically come to mind. It was part of the styling of that day.
Tempast: (2013-09-12 22:54:15)
The MR2 has it as well.
inqui-Z-tor: (2013-09-13 03:30:23)
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DeleriousZ: (2013-09-13 05:32:28)
Quiz, give me the specs of the advan's you're looking for and I'll keep an eye out!
inqui-Z-tor: (2013-09-13 12:26:27)
Super Advan Racing Version I - (Yeah, I know .. most don't like the 3-spoke)
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I'm thinking .. 5x114.3 .. 18x8.5 to 9 .. with offsets 20-25 (not sure of the offsets .. I want a flush to slightly tucked look)
This way .. IF I drop the stance (bags or coils) .. I won't have to do any body work (fender rolling, etc ..)
frostvectron: (2013-09-13 14:22:35)
3 spoke + zenki = awesome
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DeleriousZ: (2013-09-13 14:42:41)
You got it man, I'll keep an eye out [archived image: biggrin.png]
slammedcoupe: (2013-09-13 14:54:18)
yuss more 3 spokes
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DeleriousZ: (2013-09-13 14:57:47)
Some 17" advan oni's… lol
http://zilvia.net/f/wheels-tires/534…ld-school.html
bleakdragonmage: (2013-09-13 15:00:38)
Stop that DZ.. I was thinking of getting those… He wants a little too much though considering the condition IMO.
The least he'll take is 1100. TBH i've never really been a fan of that seller because he's always asking a little too much for his for sale stuff. Whatever.
Im probably just going to end up leaving the 350z anniversary wheels on the 89T and putting coilovers and related things on instead.
jaqattack02: (2013-09-13 15:03:08)
I think the stock turbo lip makes a big difference for the looks of the front of the car. It seems like something is missing without it. I think both kouki and zenki noses look good for their own reasons, but mine is definitely staying zenki.
frostvectron: (2013-09-13 15:05:28)
Yeah I was so tempted!
michaelp: (2013-09-13 15:11:47)
Zenkis always had more of an 80s super-car look going on IMO. The Kouki just looks like an after-thought and doesnt flow with the rest of the lines.
inqui-Z-tor: (2013-09-13 19:36:19)
Thanks .. But looking for 18s .. I'm already running 17s.
frostvectron: (2013-09-14 00:56:45)
I personally prefer the look of 17's on Zenki cars… very thin tires and big wheels seem more like a kouki thing to me since it's more of a modern style.
Greasedmonkey: (2013-09-14 01:17:46)
still want…argh!!!
michaelp: (2013-09-14 03:01:46)
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frostvectron: (2013-09-14 07:16:47)
Me too! It sucks that the best street tire compounds only go to 225 width on 16's though.
Greasedmonkey: (2013-09-16 04:46:35)
Im enjoying my 17s at the moment.
Benedict: (2013-09-16 08:40:29)
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jaqattack02: (2013-09-16 14:54:23)
Agreed, I feel like 17s are the ideal size on a Zenki/Chuki. Bigger just doesn't look right. A friend of mine has G35 18s on his and although it's a nice looking wheel, they just look oversized on the car.
50thAE: (2013-09-17 02:40:46)
50thAE: (2013-09-17 03:06:38)
[archived image: b3d2d57052.jpg]where can i get these wheels i want them so bad for my AE
?????
i r teh noobz: (2013-09-17 03:13:59)
JDS. I don't think they're available anywhere. Everyone wants them, myself included.
50thAE: (2013-09-17 03:16:22)
DAMMMMMMMMMMIT. im haveing the hardest time finding wheels for my car. i either cant get them or i dont like them. every time i look for wheels i just wanna beat myself in the face with a pistol… any one else get that feeling?? or am i alone on this one lol?
inqui-Z-tor: (2013-09-17 03:49:55)
Very difficult to find. Enthusiasts in Japan grab them as soon as they can.
Scroll down to the bottom ..
https://dev.z31library.com/extras_archive/www.thezenthusiast.com/wheelshow16.html
Greasedmonkey: (2013-09-30 03:39:35)
NissanEgg: (2013-10-01 01:48:50)
84Zed31: (2013-10-31 07:18:14)
I'll just drop these off here.. [archived image: 20131027_161053.jpg] [archived image: 10527824074_8088dde5fc.jpg] [archived image: 10527800565_1f0dc22a3a.jpg]
adamvann3: (2013-10-31 18:25:09)
Love the location and pictures. I really like your car. Modern suspension but keeping true to the generation with the kit and louvers. Spacers on the stock wheels really fill in the gap nicely.
A little criticism, there seems to be a giant utility pole growing out of your car in every picture or one very straight tree compared to the ones around it.
0026 looks awesome! Post up the finished products.
84Zed31: (2013-10-31 18:52:20)
Thanks! I didnt notice the tree until now, lol. The submitted calendar photo is a different angle than these, so the pole isnt as pronounced as much.
michaelp: (2013-11-20 04:49:07)
Photoshop containing pure awesomeness that will come ASAP
inqui-Z-tor: (2013-11-20 13:13:24)
That should have been your calendar entry!
michaelp: (2013-11-20 13:41:45)
It was, just not modified. The air dam is photoshopped on and if you look closely its clear.
inqui-Z-tor: (2013-11-20 14:54:31)
Hmmm .. having difficulty in responding ..
Mike .. I did vote for your entry.
I was pointing out that .. your PS'd modification would be just as (if not more) acceptable as an entry for the calendar. It wouldn't be the 1st entry with a PS'd car to be selected for the calendar. (Remember without PS limits .. the car you see, may only exist in the submitters imagination.)
Ven: (2013-11-20 22:47:34)
Throw on that airdam and maybe some white mesh wheels w/ polished lip then we're talking about an ultra badass zenki.
michaelp: (2014-03-01 15:40:59)
Another idea I've had running through my head.
TBO lip extended height, modified to fit a Zenki/Chuki
floridaZ: (2014-03-02 02:28:43)
Me thinks it would be easier to start with an 87 bumper to achieve that look.
michaelp: (2014-03-02 03:05:21)
Me thinks it would be easier to start with an 87 bumper to achieve that look.
I don't like the 87s catfish-looking headlights and rounded-off-ness
Ven: (2014-03-02 17:20:13)
I think the single lense looks cleaner. It's why I wanted the zenki euro headlights.
reddzx: (2014-03-02 18:02:27)
I think the single lense looks cleaner. It's why I wanted the zenki euro headlights.
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Butter: (2014-03-02 22:10:37)
Another idea I've had running through my head.
TBO lip extended height, modified to fit a Zenki/Chuki
I actually test-fitted this. There is a bit of a gap and nothing for it to hang to. You could probably make it work and it would look sweet. Zenki just needs a chin-job.
Butter: (2014-03-28 13:41:40)
http://ink361.com/app/users/ig-25370…rusokin/photos
Butter: (2014-05-05 12:22:11)
Dang!
300zxturboftw: (2014-05-05 13:34:52)
What kit is that Brian? Dat front air dam…
Butter: (2014-05-05 16:02:57)
Looks like the dual fog Kaminari.
Ven: (2014-05-05 21:15:00)
That brown one is really nice. Wonder what fenders those are. And I love the duck lip spoiler.
1sikz: (2014-05-06 15:19:36)
Probably custom made fenders…
85z31t88: (2014-10-23 21:47:20)
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I want the air dam thats on the blueish silver car.
I just ordered that front and the matching rear for my 86T, CANT WAIT
Pace: (2014-10-30 18:14:02)
While we're on the topic of Kaminari valences… Does anyone have info on the "single louver" version posted earlier? The only info I can find is from old translated JDS catalog sites and ZZZing referring to it as the "Aero" model (obviously outdated name by now). I'm hoping it hasn't been superceded by another.
Example:
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OR…
Does anyone have any pics of the Kaminari K030220 valence (similar to Quiz's) on an 86? I can only seem to find pics of the narrow fender version on 84-85s.
And to stay on topic… Someone added some custom flares.
Pace: (2014-11-17 00:44:43)
A few faves of the Polish 2+2.
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FrozenZ: (2014-11-17 02:40:27)
god damn. Love the front fitment, rear I'm not so sure. I have always been a sucker for the white/red too.
Mutant-Z: (2014-11-22 01:38:49)
Look at this
https://dev.z31library.com/extras_archive/80shero.blogspot.com/
Butter: (2014-11-26 22:35:15)
Look at this
https://dev.z31library.com/extras_archive/80shero.blogspot.com/
1984HZ31NISSANFAIRLADYZBLUE%u00252B5.jpg
Ohhh.
My.
Gaaaaaaaaaawd.
joshers21: (2014-11-26 22:46:02)
I concur!
Mutant-Z: (2014-11-29 03:20:25)
Isnt that front bumper the Modern garage type?
nater86zx: (2014-11-29 16:18:47)
Look at this
https://dev.z31library.com/extras_archive/80shero.blogspot.com/
Oooooooo very nice…
nater86zx: (2014-11-29 16:34:10)
Does anyone have any pics of the Kaminari K030220 valence (similar to Quiz's) on an 86? I can only seem to find pics of the narrow fender version on 84-85s.
Do you mean this one? (mine)
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Being painted…
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I had some fitment issues during the installation due to the this air dam being meant for '84-'85 fenders. It was worth all the extra work, I am pleased with how it came out. I think it fits the car well.
Pace: (2014-12-20 03:44:15)
Missed the update.
Do you mean this one? (mine)
Isn't that one of the Xenon models?
I'm more or less looking for more pics of this (preferably at a better front angle and unbroken). Kaminari non-louvered front for '86 models.
Edit: Looking at it again, the way the side of the front cover flares upward seems off. Maybe it's not the Kaminari I'm looking for… No Star Wars-related puns, please.
In a perfect world, I would love to have the bumper from this car [not to mention the whole car in its entirety], but I'm quite certain it's a one-off piece. I like how the center opening is a bit wider and the fog lights line up with the turn signals.
And to keep this thread on track, here's a clean example with the louvered Kaminari bumper.
Raven: (2015-03-21 01:26:35)
I have this feeling that its a reworked Avante Auto kit. Spoiler is obviously Avante, the rear flares appear to be as well. I'm guessing they chopped the OEM zenki and grafted the Avante front on to it along with some reworking to retain the black bar. I could be wrong though, all I know for sure is that I want it. It and its spoiler.
Pace: (2015-03-21 12:55:32)
While perusing the Yahoo Japan Auctions last week, I found listings for the front bumper and spoiler. They are made-to-order by an individual (or shop) in Japan.
Raven: (2015-03-21 15:50:44)
Nice find Pace. Also just as an FYI My comment about the Avante kit was in regards to the blue Three-piece Z.
Raven: (2015-03-27 20:11:39)
I'll just leave this here.
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Pace: (2015-08-04 17:17:19)
Another winning combo. Shaved bumper, Kaminari louvered air dam, and JDS wheels.
Ignore the clean kouki.
james: (2015-08-10 09:09:56)
Best thread ever, So many things to implement on the 85 now
Neil86t: (2015-10-03 14:01:33)
Butter: (2015-10-06 01:08:06)
I'll just leave this here.
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Everyone missed the kouki TBO on a zenki.
alnaze: (2015-10-25 11:29:52)
Pace: (2015-10-25 18:49:17)
Clean, but would be better suited in this thread: http://z31performance.com/showthread…-Keep-It-Kouki
alnaze: (2015-10-25 18:53:19)
Clean, but would be better suited in this thread: http://z31performance.com/showthread…-Keep-It-Kouki
sorry my bad
Daimon: (2015-12-03 22:16:02)
I'll just leave this here.
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Anyone know what is this front lip ?
michaelp: (2015-12-10 04:52:01)
Thats definitely a Kouki TBO lip modified to fit a Zenki. haha