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RooooATM: (2008-12-27 23:05:47)
What speakers / speaker sizes have you guys found fit in the back slots?
I just purchased some 6x9's and they were too deep.
michaelp: (2008-12-27 23:11:54)
in the stock spots? 6.5" and only 6.5".
RooooATM: (2008-12-28 07:08:42)
yah in the stock spots. 6.5 x 6.5? what about the depth though?
and whats some other interesting things people have done for speakers in the back of thier z's ?
Guest: (2008-12-28 07:12:42)
i had some planet audio 6.5in components in my z i had to modify the shit out of the brackets for them to fit. as far as depth goes the speakers i had were pretty deep and they fit in the front just fine. once i modded the bracket the rears fit with plenty of room underneath them. i been drinking so if this doesn't make sense then im more drunk then i thought.
foxtrot: (2008-12-28 15:18:28)
i took out the 6.5 speakers in the back on my z. put in two 6x9 speaker boxes with some reallly nice quality speakers and used the stock size up front. sounds great IMO
jbmartin87: (2008-12-28 18:44:54)
I took out the metal peices and put wood covered with vinyl there for my speakers…
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should work for 6x9 speakers too.. involves taking out the rear plastics tho
Urstin: (2008-12-29 22:20:38)
My 6.5inch Hypnotic speakers don't fit in the rear. [archived image: frown.png]
RooooATM: (2008-12-29 22:27:33)
is the magnet on them too deep?
that's the problem i had :/
Nismofreak: (2008-12-29 22:51:55)
Hahaha you guys have it easy. I'm not so lucky.
Poopy JBL GTO components that came with the car (they were installed exactly like you see here, I did not touch them before removal)
EDIT: Looking back at the pictures I took when I got the door panel off, the metal baffle was indeed screwed into the door. There was a dime holding the speaker in too [archived image: smile.png]
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New 8" midbass.....
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It's a little big for the hole. Oh well, not the first time I've heard that, I'll make it fit.
Urstin: (2008-12-30 00:12:35)
Thats what she said.
Yeah the little arms that reach down to the magnet stop it from sitting flush, and then screwing in. So I think I'm going to cut the opening bigger, and drill new holes!
Nismofreak: (2008-12-30 00:38:42)
How about you simply make a spacer?
LuZZifer: (2008-12-30 04:44:43)
If you put a spacer for the rear speakers, then would you have a problem fitting the original speaker cover back on.
On yours Nismofreak, that wood block looks like a 3/8 or 1/2. Is the door cover going over that or will you have a cut out within the door panel and cover the block with colored vinyl and speaker grill?
RooooATM: (2008-12-30 07:58:53)
wow, definatly not a very thourough speaker job lol. (the guy who did that before you)
but I like the midbass.
K_Scheeringa: (2008-12-30 15:24:48)
How deep are your 8ââ¬Â midbass?
I have a couple of 6 1/2" midbassââ¬â¢s that I want to use in my doors (when the time comes) but am unsure of the depth available.
What is the max speaker depth for the doors (allowing the windows to work)?
I have not pulled my door panels as of yet and am just curious..
Shady195: (2008-12-30 19:07:25)
Why in the hell would you want 6x9's anyways, they dont reprodeuce any quality worth a shit…
buy 2 way 6.5's or if you acctualy want it to sound good by component speakers.. 6.5inch midrange and a tweeter.. I forget the exact model but audiobahn has an older series that when my friend bought them were the best on the market you can get a set for about 100 bucks right now, and seriously he still wins SQL comps with them, his system is ridiculous.
sweets: (2008-12-30 19:50:13)
when i had my 84, i had two 6.5" memphis carbon-fiber woven seakers wired to a little jensen 300watt amp in the rear, two JL audio 6.5" and 1.5" tweeters (with capacitors) in the front and two memphis audio 10" subs connected to a 1000watt kenwood amp, and that was the most clearest and loudest system i have had. it was just amazing and the louder you played it, the better it sounded and they all fit just perfect in the OE slots with out modifications… except for the box for the two 10's.
Nismofreak: (2008-12-30 22:41:16)
They are 4" deep. The baffle they are on is 3/4" MDF, and the magnet misses the window assembly (with the window all the way down) by about 1.5 millimeters, and no that's not an exaggeration.
If you're wanting the most your door-mounted mids/midbass can do, you will greatly benefit from vibration damping, sealing, and securing the door. You pretty much want to make it a sealed box, cover up the access holes (with removable aluminum/plexi plates if you want) and make sure your mounting baffle is at least 3/4" thick, secured to the door. If you use wood you need to waterproof it, because things will get wet, the wood will rot, and you will be left with a funky ass smell.
As far as rear speakers go, Other than these two 12's, no speakers will be behind the front seat…
K_Scheeringa: (2008-12-30 23:19:51)
That will put the sound stage up front where it should be…
I was wrong, my mid bass's are 6" bumpers (I know not a great name, but sound good) they have a 3 3/8" mounting depth. I'll have to see what I can do to make a small enclosure inside the door, maybe fiberglass or something.. I'm sure these will not like running free air…
Does anybody know if the area around where the door speakers mount is the same between a 2+0 and a 2+2? I have a spare set of doors off of a 2+0 that I could screw around with to make my enclosureââ¬Â¦
My car is a 2+2..
Nismofreak: (2008-12-30 23:55:11)
[quote]K_Scheeringa wrote:
As far as rear speakers go, Other than these two 12's, no speakers will be behind the front seat…
That will put the sound stage up front where it should be…
I was wrong, my mid bass's are 6" bumpers (I know not a great name, but sound good) they have a 3 3/8" mounting depth. I'll have to see what I can do to make a small enclosure inside the door, maybe fiberglass or something.. I'm sure these will not like running free air…
Does anybody know if the area around where the door speakers mount is the same between a 2+0 and a 2+2? I have a spare set of doors off of a 2+0 that I could screw around with to make my enclosureââ¬Â¦
My car is a 2+2..
Don't bother with enclosures in the door. You'd be surprised how well they will work in an infinite baffle install (free air would mean sitting on your table with no baffle). 99% of all car-audio mids are made for a car door application. Seal the door well enough and you can get some GREAT bass up front. I'll be running mine down to the 40Hz region, the subs are only for when the car is moving and I want a little more impact. My midbass and tweeters were actually made for home audio use, (read: NOT designed for a car door) but the MB has a stiff enough suspension that I can get away with playing it that low without a true box.
As far as the differences, Ionno. But you'll definately want to deaden the door regardless, it will help with resonance/rattling issues you're gonna encounter.
RooooATM: (2009-01-06 04:02:57)
I think I like Jbmartins idea for rear speakers, I think that's what I'm gonna go with.
Looks clean still and you get to show off your speakers a little bit I suppose.
also just because I can't fit any speaker in the stock spot… :-?
Guest: (2009-01-06 08:12:22)
i did this with my 3 way components and damn did it sound good. i had to modify the mount for the 6.5. i just cut slits into the mount where the speaker was hitting. i never got around to figuring out where and how to install the mid up front but the 6.5 fit just fine in the door.
RooooATM: (2009-01-06 21:19:08)
I dont see how the magnet on that isn't hitting your wheel well. whatever haha
I see you like your tweeters, that's always a good thing.
Guest: (2009-01-07 06:57:31)
oh it's touching but the factory covers fit on there just fine.
badboyz31: (2009-01-07 13:23:14)
My Jenson 6.5" don't fit in the rear either, i will probably just take them back and get some different ones.
khyronzx: (2009-01-07 15:11:57)
you should, jensens are horrible speakers.
Guest: (2009-01-07 20:52:39)
lol @ jensens. my speakers have a huge magnet and they fit in there. i will get some pics of the brackets i modded when i go over to my new place.
RooooATM: (2009-01-07 22:28:23)
yah do that, I can't even fit a 6x9 magnet in there. maybe the depth is different between some of the models.
Rob-84AE: (2009-01-08 00:14:27)
I had two sets of MB Quart Q series in my Z (one set in the front, one in the rear.) Ended up taking out the set in the rear because they were superfluous.
My suggestion to you: Forget the rears. Except to add a small amount of rear fill they will muddy up your sound staging. If you can't live without them, just get the cheapest set you can find and adjust the gain on your amp so low that you can barely hear them.
If you haven't gotten any speakers yet, spend the extra money you now have by not getting rears on a better set of front speakers. Better sound, better separation, better equipment, just better.
Guest: (2009-01-08 00:28:06)
cant find them they are packed up. but i just cut and bent down the areas that prevented the speaker from going in. i have fairly deep speakers you shouldn't have any problems. 6x9's are not going to work any way with the stock mounts. heres a shitty pic of what i did.
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Urstin: (2009-01-10 03:40:55)
What did you cut the metal with? Just wondering how accurate you are with an angle grinder lololol.
Guest: (2009-01-10 04:55:11)
tin snips and pliers to bend it.