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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;FrozenZ:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(2015-07-10 19:58:06)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Car was having hard hot starts for about a month (but ran idled and fine after) and then decided not to start. 84NA2T running 87T ECU, auto transmission. No idle controls, no o2 sensor, but ran like a top for 2 years like that. Battery is brand new.&lt;br /&gt;
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Car will fire once if you leave it for 10 minutes or so, otherwise it just cranks. It isn&amp;#039;t sputtering or backfiring or anything.&lt;br /&gt;
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In troubleshooting I have put on a new CAS, cap and rotor. I have spark, tested with a spark tester on the #1 wire.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fuel pressure is 37PSI after the filter before the rail. Fuel pump primes when key is turned. Not smelling gas in the engine bay so I don&amp;#039;t *think* it&amp;#039;s flooding.&lt;br /&gt;
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Injectors have +12VDC when ignition is ON. What I don&amp;#039;t know is if the injectors are firing and I am not sure how to test that - tried the screwdriver trick and I don&amp;#039;t *think* they were firing but I am not sure. If the EFI relay was toast would I be getting 12VDC there at all?&lt;br /&gt;
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ECU is only throwing the fuel temp sensor code.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tried unplugging MAF and CHTS. Neither made any difference.&lt;br /&gt;
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Not sure what to try next. Help?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;FrozenZ:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(2015-07-10 21:46:49)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Replaced EFI relay because why the fuck not. No difference.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ran fuel pump directly off the battery. No difference.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;FrozenZ:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(2015-07-10 22:31:30)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Well fuck me. Bad ECU, or at least bad injector drivers. Put in the car&amp;#039;s original minty fresh 84NA ECU and it started right up. Now I need a turbo auto ECU :P&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;wbnethery3:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(2015-07-10 22:39:32)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Quote|user=FrozenZ|Car was having hard hot starts .................................................. .................................. Bad ECU}}&lt;br /&gt;
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^Come in after work and see a time capsule of a guy talking to himself^&lt;br /&gt;
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Seriously though, thanks for sharing what you did… this is why FORUM&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;fb ---- all day, every day…&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;FrozenZ:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(2015-07-11 12:40:17)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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It&amp;#039;s never the ECU (except when it&amp;#039;s the ECU).&lt;br /&gt;
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Have since discovered that a MT ECU will run an auto car just fine if you have no idle controls.&lt;br /&gt;
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Cautionary tale for future troubleshooters: it really is very rarely the ECU. I swapped ECUs only *after* dumping codes, testing fuel pressure, testing spark, and doing things to fix the codes the ECU was throwing.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Mike87:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(2015-12-01 06:12:47)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh man i just posted a thread with an identical issue. I think my issue is the ecu too&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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