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'''TurboZkid:''' <small>(2015-04-29 15:33:27)</small>

I am thinking about buying the Cometic mls head gaskets. I called the company they said that the gasket is for 84 to 89 z31. I asked about the added w series coolant hole and if it would work on my w series block , and they did not know.... Does anyone know if this mls gasket has the extra hole or not it not can I run it with the w series. If not is there a good way to modify it to work?

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'''300zxturboftw:''' <small>(2015-04-29 15:52:15)</small>

You can run it. I'm running OWO heads on A/B block with them and have had no issues.

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'''TurboZkid:''' <small>(2015-04-29 16:13:07)</small>

{{Quote|user=300zxturboftw|You can run it. I'm running OWO heads on A/B block with them and have had no issues.}}

Where did you purchase these gaskets? And I have the 87.5 mm weisco pistons do I have to get a larger than stock bore? I feel like the 88 mm will be too large

I tryed ordering from company direct and they would not sell them to me

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'''NissanEgg:''' <small>(2015-04-29 17:37:58)</small>

I was only aware that Cometic offered MLS gaskets for the twin cam VG30 motors, not the single VGs.

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'''300zxturboftw:''' <small>(2015-04-29 17:44:33)</small>

You can't get them thru cometic anymore. You will have to pay the $2500 fee if you want them made.

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'''TurboZkid:''' <small>(2015-04-29 18:43:08)</small>

{{Quote|user=300zxturboftw|You can't get them thru cometic anymore. You will have to pay the $2500 fee if you want them made.}}

Where did you get your set?

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'''jaqattack02:''' <small>(2015-04-29 18:46:50)</small>

{{Quote|user=300zxturboftw|You can run it. I'm running OWO heads on A/B block with them and have had no issues.}}

This has nothing to do with running it on a W series and is very bad information. Using OWO heads on an A/B series block doesn't make use of the extra passages, as the exist in the heads and not the block, so you are essentially blocking them off, which is fine in your case. This would cause issues in a W series or a VG33 where the passages exist in both the head and block and the coolant needs to flow.

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'''300zxturboftw:''' <small>(2015-04-29 19:05:47)</small>

{{Quote|user=jaqattack02|This has nothing to do with running it on a W series and is very bad information. Using OWO heads on an A/B series block doesn't make use of the extra passages, as the exist in the heads and not the block, so you are essentially blocking them off, which is fine in your case. This would cause issues in a W series or a VG33 where the passages exist in both the head and block and the coolant needs to flow.}}

Correct me if I'm wrong, the V52 heads have the water jacket, where the W series don't. I was concerned that blocking off the passage in block would cause issues, but it hasn't.

Edit: nope you are right. Looking at this [http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticles/articletype/articleview/articleid/1298/project-pathfinder-part-10-how-to-build-the-nissan-vg30e.aspx http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticl…san-vg30e.aspx]

shows using vg30 heads on owo you would drill heads where coolant needs to flow. That's so odd though, because some of the OWO heads didn't have the water ports the v52 heads did.

See bottom for V52 heads and top for vg33 owo

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'''300zxturboftw:''' <small>(2015-04-29 19:26:21)</small>

I made a couple versions of the MLS gaskets. There is no "easy" way to punch holes for those coolant ports because those holes need to be embossed by a machine otherwise they will not seal and leak coolant.

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ASCO says theirs will work for VG33 too and has similar design

jaqattack, have you used an MLS gasket on a W series before or know someone who has had issues? I doubt there will be any.

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'''jaqattack02:''' <small>(2015-04-29 23:49:09)</small>

No, i just had to do research on what head gaskets to use with different combinations of heads and block. From my research A/B series blocks can run any of the later heads and use the gasket that matches the block. W block has to have W series (85e?) or later heads, and has to have W series gaskets because of the extra water ports.

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'''jaqattack02:''' <small>(2015-04-30 00:26:19)</small>

This info from RedZ31 covers it.

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'''TurboZkid:''' <small>(2015-04-30 03:40:20)</small>

Thanks for the info everyone

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'''87TurboZ:''' <small>(2016-03-06 19:33:49)</small>

Sorry to bring back an old thread but I am wondering the same thing. So if MLS gaskets that have the added w series coolant passage work on all engines being a, b, and w series. Why can't you run oem composite w series head gaskets on an a, b block with w series or OWO heads?