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'''JoCkeWe:''' <small>(2006-12-28 22:31:25)</small>

Since a z31 or 2wd pathy 30A trannyis a bit tricky(Read: impossible) to find around here, I bought a RS5R30A From a Z32 TT -91 today.

Went back to my garage, and mounted it right up to the block(bolt on). After reading about this, I thought the shifter should end up way back in the trunk. But this is what i got, and how a fully functional shifter prototype looked like after less then 1 hour of work. the shifter is from my old BW T5 tranny..

http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e3…tranny%20swap/

Now I will Decide which rear-end I'm gonna go with, then make a Custom driveshaft from the Z32 driveshaft. And probably fab something up to mount the z31 starter. Or maybe try a z32 starter to see if it bolt's up..

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'''Jason84NA2T:''' <small>(2006-12-28 22:35:29)</small>

Holy wow! It bolts right up? That looks super easy… now all you need is to have an 87-89T Z31 driveshaft lengthened and the install is complete.

This is getting stickied like woah.

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'''JoCkeWe:''' <small>(2006-12-28 22:40:32)</small>

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the shifter doesn't bolt up, But I used a 35x35mm steel cube, drilled a hole in it and welded it to the bottom end of the T5 shifter..

The 87-89T shaft is nowhere to be found, so I'm going to start with the front end of the Z32 driveshaft, and build a custom shaft from there..

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'''SATAN:''' <small>(2006-12-28 23:27:43)</small>

Wait a second, I thought the input shaft of the tranny was different for the TT trannys and for the z31 trannys? Meaning, I thought you couldn't put a T5 tranny or a NA tranny OR an 87-89 tranny into a z32 and vice versa.

Turns out not so much huh, they are ALL interchangeable. This is VERY good info! Thank you!

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'''MrwassmanNA2T:''' <small>(2006-12-29 03:22:09)</small>

So they basically didn't run the output shaft out hella far and just ran a linkage to the shifter? My buddys E30 is like that, stubby little trans

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'''cheezmonta:''' <small>(2006-12-29 05:08:23)</small>

The Z31 and Z32 both n/a and turbo and twin turbo all have the same input shaft. When I did my clutch change last summer I slipped my clutch disc onto my buddies Z32 trans and it fit perfectly.

What suprises me is that the trans bolted up to the engine!? I never measured but from eyeballing it there should have been at least 2 bolts that wouldn't line up. 1 on the top right and 1 on the bottem right where the starter should go on the Z31 trans.

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'''JoCkeWe:''' <small>(2006-12-29 08:10:01)</small>

I haven't put up all the bolts to the block, just a few of them to keep it in place. But what suprised me was that the shifter ended up in basically the same spot as stock. I've been asking about this swap for almost a year now, and more then a few times I've been told that the shifter will end up in to far back in the car.

Howcome Stinky's attempt failed. Differences between Us-spec and Euro trannies? N/A And TT? 2+2 and 2seaters?

Oh, yes, the Tranny mount(edit: Crossmember) will not bolt on either. But it's seems to be pretty easy to make the T5 tranny mount fit… :P

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'''Stinky:''' <small>(2007-01-01 15:49:34)</small>

It wasnt so much that I couldnt put the trans in but I was trying to get the shifter closer to the stock location. Granted the few inches it sits back doesnt seem so be such a problem when i see it in your car.

I wonder if having the shifter mounted directly to the frame rather then to the transmission itself will cause any issues? Are you using stiff or solid motor mounts?

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'''Kennedy:''' <small>(2007-02-07 10:24:20)</small>

I still haven't got pics from my [http://uldiz.z31turbo.com/ friend] but we have now one tranny swap done in here. I have been trying to remember to write this text for month now [archived image: smile.png]

I'll try to translate text that he send me. Techspec english is still little hard.

Changed to RS5R30A an FS5R30A tranny frontshell.

You have to make custom flywheel if you want to use Z32 starter.

Or modify tranny housing? for Z31 starter

Clutchfork (?) was from RS5R tranny. Over 1mm thicker stuff

Pressure bearing (Clutch Release Bearing?) is from Z31

Oh and Z32 pressure plate shell is 1.5mm thicker than Z31.

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'''MachZ:''' <small>(2007-06-26 05:25:40)</small>

I'm working on putting a Z32 5-speed in an Infiniti M30 I picked up. I'm about 99% sure that the 89-91 SE 5-speed Maxima flywheel will work with the Z32 N.A. or modified TT tranny. Since the Maxima uses a 240 mm setup, the TT bell housing would have to shaved down a bit where the starter mounts but other than that, I think it should work.

The Maxima flywheel is a little thinner than the N.A. Z32 and the ring gear location is different, but it also mounts to the crank a little different so the ring gear is actually only 1 mm off. The friction surface of the Maxima's flywheel is about 4 mm inward (to the engine) than the Z flywheel but I think the throw out bearing and such will handle it. I'll be testing it soon and am pretty confident that it will work out so this will make it a very easy swap as far as the flywheel goes.

I also have been using Z31 clutches on the Maxima flywheel so you don't have to give up yours or the Z31 options either. [archived image: biggrin.png]

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'''MachZ:''' <small>(2007-07-05 07:56:36)</small>

Everything is bolted up. I'm going to throw a starter on tomorrow and make sure it engages properly… I don't really have any doubts that it will though. I have a bunch of pictures from a post on an M30 board, most of the stuff I got I would recommend in the Z31 as well so I'll copy it here:

Alright.... here we go:

Cheapo ebay short throw shifter. Did have to slightly file the inside of the hole to get the bushings in. The cheap shifters like this tend to be know for not having round holes… yeah, its weird. It did come with nyloc nuts, which was a very nice touch. I actually used one of the nuts for the shifter to linkage bolt so that I could tighten it somewhat loosely and not worry about the nut backing off. This makes for butter smooth shifting.

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SPL Parts brass shifter bushings… highly recommended. These got ate up a bit from when I removed them from my old shifter.

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Here's the solid shifter bracket. Like I said above, I love this thing. It feels so much better than the Z32's setup ever did, regardless of the STS. This one also includes nyloc nuts. I need to call Mazworx sometime as my particular bracket isn't parallel with itself. I'm not sure if that's how they design it or they just didn't get it welded up right. It could sit a little lower but it doesn't appear to affect the shifting in any bad way at all. As you can tell in these pictures… my garage is an absolute MESS. :lol:

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89-91 Maxima SE Fidanza flywheel with Z31 Spec Stage 3 6-puck clutch (most definitely overkill, over over over over kill, but I had it laying around and didn't want to buy another clutch… probably should have though :lol: It will handle upwards of 515 ft. lb. torque.)

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I used the stock auto tranny metal covers/spacers that go between the engine and tranny, worked perfectly. One thing I did want to change was the brackets that the lower portion of the tranny bolts to. The auto tranny has threaded holes along the bottom whereas the 5-speed has a mix of threaded and bolt through (bracket has one hole and one hole with a nut welded on). The driver's side bolted up perfectly but for some reason the passenger's side Z32 bracket was some funky design and it wouldn't fit. Nothing to worry about though, just use a long bolt with a washer, lock washer, and a nut and you're good to go. This step is not required, just makes bolting the bottom on a tiny bit easier in my opinion. If you can get a Z32 driver's side bracket I'd definitely do it, if not just use some use a nut and bolt combo with lock washers. (sorry for the blurry picture)

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And finally pictures of what it looks like inside. It appears to sit quite close to the driver's side but with the STS doesn't interfere with the hand brake and is actually quicker comfortable. Any further to the right and 5th would feel a bit far away to me (I believe this is mostly due to seating position, in the Z they have everything pretty close to you… if you sit in one or have sat in one I think you'll get what I mean :lol[archived image: smile.png].

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This is something I wanted to ask about here though.

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Do any of you happen to have a picture of or happen to know if that is similar to the Z31 sensors? The M has a 3.92 differential and I'd like to use one of the 88-89 N.A. 19 tooth gears if it will work on this sensor.

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'''MachZ:''' <small>(2007-07-10 04:45:56)</small>

Got delayed on some other things in the car so I haven't had a chance to check the starter yet but did test the clutch today and it looks like the Maxima flywheel/clutch setup will disengage properly (there was a little concern as the pressure plate didn't appear to stick out quite as far as the Z32 setup but it appears that it will work just fine). I'm 99% sure it will be running tomorrow so I'll let you guys know if the starter meshes properly and such. If anything, you would only need a 1 mm spacer of some sort to keep the starter gear from going too far but I don't think that will be an issue at all, just throwing out all of the possibilities. [archived image: biggrin.png]

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'''MachZ:''' <small>(2007-07-11 06:12:11)</small>

Clutch disengages perfectly and the starter engages perfectly… going to get a driveshaft tomorrow and go drive roughly 700 miles to Indiana… kind of scary having a long trip as the first drive on the swap. :lol:

Startup video: [https://dev.z31library.com/extras_archive/www.machzracing.com/ https://dev.z31library.com/extras_archive/www.machzracing.com/]

So there you go… if you guys want a Z32 5-speed just use the 89-91 Maxima flywheel (I'm using a Fidanza) and either a Maxima or early Z31 aftermarket clutch (I'm using the M30 starter but you can likely use the Z32 starter as well). Good luck! [archived image: biggrin.png]

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'''MachZ:''' <small>(2007-07-24 18:49:09)</small>

There aren't many 6-speeds out there that would match up well with the VG in my opinion. The T56 would probably be good but you have to be careful with the differential choice. The GM T56's have a .50:1 6th while the Ford Cobra and I believe the Viper use a .68:1 if I remember correctly. There's not really any good reason to have a 6-speed on our cars as most are boosted… most boosted cars like wide gearing, which most 6-speeds don't have. The 350Z 6-speed actually has a higher ratio 6th gear than the 5th gear of the Z32 5-speed (.79:1 vs. .75:1 respectively). Luckily it has a 3.54 differential, otherwise it would have a pretty high cruising rpm and likely worse fuel economy. The 350Z 6-speed is actually considered weaker than the Z32 5-speed as well.

With the right differential you can get a nice wide ratio with a 6-speed but most people don't think about that and don't have good gearing with the turbo setup.

Update on the swap: Put nearly 2,000+ miles on it and so far its been absolutely perfect. The only problem is the solid shift bracket… makes for excellent shifter feel but it allows you to hear every single noise the transmission makes… I think my tranny has a bad bearing so its really bad. :lol: I'm going to try some little pieces of rubber between the mount and tranny to see if that helps at all.

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'''brewster240:''' <small>(2008-01-02 09:49:21)</small>

just some back up to machz, thanks to his info, im running the same set up in my m30 that he pioneered.

1991 m30

1990 maxima flywheel

1988 300zx pilot bushing

1991 300zx n/a trans, shifter(mounted on mazworx bracket), and throwout bearing

1991 m30 starter

jdm spec rwd sr20det clutch disc and pressure plate

been running good for about 2 months and 2500 miles so far.

interesting note, i am using a clutch setup meant for a rwd sr20det. so that will open up a lot of possiblilties, due to the popularity of the sr20 swap in 240sx's and such.

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'''JoCkeWe:''' <small>(2008-07-09 13:14:35)</small>

After messing around with z31starters, z31 flywheels and custom mounts I decided to swap the flywheel/starter setup..

As usual, I can't use the same parts as you guys. M30 is nowhere to be found and no-one can afford a z32 starter over here..

So. Maxima -90 Flywheel and maxima -90 starter, with z32 TT tranny it is.. All it takes is some love, and a hammer, cause the maxima-starter won't fit without a slight touch of violence to the chassie..

Maxima flywheel and z31 centerforce pressureplate was a hard time though.. it's doable, but you'll have to force the PP a bit to make the holes/bolts line up with the threads in the flywheel..

Anyways:

Maxima vg30 starter year: 89 - 91

Maxima vg30 flywheel year: 89 - 91

Z32 TT tranny

Works perfectly, after some violence.. :-)

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'''nismopu:''' <small>(2008-10-28 06:08:29)</small>

Just so people know for the speed sensor issues you can use the mechanical drive used in v6 pickups. Nissan part number 32702-02G17. peace.

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'''zmech:''' <small>(2009-03-19 22:05:39)</small>

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'''Timbo_021:''' <small>(2009-04-02 08:51:21)</small>

Got the gearbox finally!!

What i had to do was put the bellhousing from the z31 box on the z32 box and lengthen the tail shaft 120mm.Now just need to do a few little things and shes good to go!Using all z31 gear except the extension housing on the box.

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'''Timbo_021:''' <small>(2009-04-04 11:02:45)</small>

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Shifter sits right there on my 2+2.Setup im using is:

Z32 RS5R30A extension housing with Z31 FS5R30A bellhousing bolted on

Everything else is Z31 and bolted on beautiful.Only thing i need to work out is speedo wiring,reverse switch and shifter assembly.

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Also, the driveshaft needs to be extended by 120mm because the output shaft is that much shorter.

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'''gardner86zx:''' <small>(2009-04-05 23:13:45)</small>

why did you have to swap bell housings. I thought the z32 bell housing would bolt up to the vg30et block?

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'''Timbo_021:''' <small>(2009-04-06 10:33:28)</small>

It does but i cant easily find the right flywheel for that bellhousing to work.

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'''Nismofreak:''' <small>(2009-04-18 22:12:36)</small>

Am I correct to assume the front case/"Bellhousing" between the Z31 30A and the Z32 30A are the same length? Just the tail end of the cases are different lengths?

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'''Timbo_021:''' <small>(2009-04-20 07:56:31)</small>

Not sure if the bellhousings are the same length.Im guessing they are or else the input shafts would have to be a different length too.

The internals between FS5R30A and RS5R30A arent the same, the output shaft is shorter and the ratios are taller i think (more acceleration).

I dont think the Z32 tranny is any stronger either due to being the same design as the Z31 box..

Ive been driving now for around 700k's and its going pretty well.The shift is real notchy though compared to the old box.I put a Z32 short shifter in and modified the stock Z32 shifter bracket to make it sit in the middle.Kaned a few R32s and R33s and 350Z's..Haha,always funny coz they dont expect it.

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'''ez22:''' <small>(2009-05-27 19:58:06)</small>

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Listen to this man. I have the same swap in my M30 with almost 2 years and over 20k miles on the swap. You can use a N/A z31 clutch kit as well.

[http://forums.f31club.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2262 http://forums.f31club.com/phpBB3/vie…php?f=1&t=2262]

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'''ez22:''' <small>(2009-06-19 07:37:40)</small>

Well here's some of the info that MachZ posted over on F31club.com to make the swap possible for the M30: [http://forums.f31club.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2034 http://forums.f31club.com/phpBB3/vie…php?f=1&t=2034]

That revised 30A is expensive [http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_info.php?cPath=6_11&products_id=1684 http://www.z1motorsports.com/product…oducts_id=1684]

Might as well get a Getrag.

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'''springerc69:''' <small>(2009-06-19 21:48:12)</small>

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That was the entire point, you can run a Z32 tranny in a Z31 by swapping the bellhousing from a Z31 30A to the Z32 Tranny, attaching the shifter bracket or making one yourself, and getting a longer drive shaft.

You don't need an M30 starter, and Maxima fly wheel, you can do it with 100% stock Z31 parts minus the Z32 transmission and custom driveshaft. Which method is easier would depend on the person/resources they have at their disposal.

Now if my interpritation is all wrong, flame on :nanan?re

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'''Steve88t:''' <small>(2009-08-06 15:58:33)</small>

It means the Infiniti M30 aka F31 chassis.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infiniti_M http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infiniti_M]

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'''Timbo_021:''' <small>(2009-09-26 10:34:05)</small>

I dont know bout seals, i didnt do that part.I also dont think you can swap internals because the output shafts are different lengths and arent interchangeable..

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'''mace350:''' <small>(2010-02-04 02:00:08)</small>

So did any of you guys(using the maxima flywheel) have to shave down the tranny where the starter bolts up or did it work?

Edit- When I looked up maxima starters it appears they bolt on like the stock starter did not like the TT starter. I have the stock TT starter but will need to dent the chassis for it to work. I dont mind this but I would like to know if the tranny will require shaving. Did I look up the wrong maxima starter?

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'''brewster240:''' <small>(2010-02-07 00:09:28)</small>

didnt have to shave anything, all bolted right up.

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'''mace350:''' <small>(2010-02-08 16:55:57)</small>

Thank you, The tranny is installed in my car with shifter and driveshaft…It just did not look like the starter gear would hit the flywheel without shaving the area it mounts to on the tranny.

In about a week I'll know…

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'''FlawleZ:''' <small>(2010-02-08 21:54:56)</small>

Just to reiterate, the Z32 transmission is extremely strong. People make 900HP+ on them. The only true known weakness is the factory synchronizers in 90-96 models. They simply hate high rev shifts. They were later upgraded in '97 to a much more robust set.

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'''tacozzz:''' <small>(2010-02-21 20:39:47)</small>

here is another shifter bracket i found for u guys doing this swap…looks like it moves the shifter alil bit further forward then the mazworx.

[http://www.xcessivemanufacturing.com/merchant.ihtml?pid=111&step=4 http://www.xcessivemanufacturing.com/me … 111&step=4]

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'''NissanEgg:''' <small>(2010-02-21 22:39:41)</small>

Nice find. Now the question is which (the Mazworx or Xcessive manufacturing) bracket works for the Z31? It does seem that the XM bracket moves the shifter further foward compared to the Mazworx.

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'''Careless:''' <small>(2010-05-08 18:25:19)</small>

Timbo. do you have a 2+2 or do you have a 2 seater? When you say you extended the driveshaft, can you clarify which driveshaft you started with?

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'''nismopu:''' <small>(2010-05-08 22:46:28)</small>

Xcessive makes some nice parts! A guy I know is like there tester for all the KA parts he makes and its high quality stuff!

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'''ZED X:''' <small>(2010-06-17 02:44:38)</small>

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He has a 2+2 i would have imagined that he would have started with a standard Series 3 manual driveshaft from a 2+2.

We dont really get 2 Seaters here in Australia [archived image: frown.png]

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'''Geoffs89Pathy:''' <small>(2010-10-25 07:46:14)</small>

ill be doing this soon. z32 5 speed. pathfinder bell housing. pathfinder clutch and clutch assembly.

just need to know what i have to do for a crossmember. and a drive shaft. i already have everything else except the pedals and the clutch cylinders.

i bet if someone did enough research they could find a stock nissan shaft from something. ie pathfinder hardbody ect that is a bolt in shaft for the swap… that would be awesome.

does anyone know how much the shaft gets lengthen or shortened? and which shaft are they starting with? a z31 autobox shaft? or something else? also i imagine its different depending on if you have the 2+2 or the 2+0 like i do. food for thought....

last question. what exactly needs modified for the z32 shifter to work? why wont the stock z32 shifter assembly work in the z31? not in the right place? to far forward or backward? 2+2 or 2+0 ?

thanks.

trying to get this done with as little money spent as possible.

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'''ZSpeedPerformance:''' <small>(2010-11-15 01:28:37)</small>

I have not had time to read through all these post but the way you mounted the shifter to the body will quickly take out the u-joint on the transmissions shifter linkage. The stress from the trans moving against the shifter mounted directly to the body kills them pretty fast. You have to have a SOLID trans mount so it can't move against the body if you are going to do it that way. Just a heads up [archived image: wink.png]

I have a solid shifter mount sort of like mazworks but is much beefier and adjustable so you can get the shifter in the correct position.

I also have a shift boot plate for the Z32 that may well be adapted into the Z31 also.

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'''Timbo_021:''' <small>(2010-11-15 09:18:58)</small>

I modified the standard bracket to be solid and sit in the right position.. Took a while but its works good. Just need a good shifter that doesnt rattle now [archived image: tongue.png]..

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'''ZSpeedPerformance:''' <small>(2010-11-15 14:33:18)</small>

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I have those [archived image: wink.png]

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'''Geoffs89Pathy:''' <small>(2010-11-18 05:47:18)</small>

i need to do this really soon. > also i need the clutch pedal assembly, master and slave cylinder, clutch line, and drive shaft, or at least know the drive shaft length for the 2+0 (89)

last things will be some kind of tranny mount i will have to fabb, or prefabbed. along with a resurfacing on my old flywheel and a new clutch.

am i missing anything besides about 10 hours of labor?

cause i need to save up, and have this project planned ahead and ready to do in a weekend or so.

price guestimates would help to.

i already have the tranny and a 30a bell housing already.

thanks for the help

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'''nismopu:''' <small>(2010-11-18 17:15:52)</small>

All the 30a tranny mounts will work but your 2wd and 4wd crossmembers are different as are the 4cylinders. Also, finding an early 2wd v6 truck speed drive would be beneficial to you as they run similar rear gear ratios. You can see in the pics I posted above of the black30a and the speedo drive I am refering to. That's all I can think of right now.

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'''Geoffs89Pathy:''' <small>(2010-11-20 19:25:15)</small>

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um i dont think you got what i meant by me having a Z32 tranny. i have the z32 5 speed, because i had to buy it just for the bell housing on my VH45 swap on my pathfinder.

i put that bell housing on my pathfinder tranny, and i now have my z32 tranny and my old pathfinder bellhousing to put on the z32 tranny to make it a simple bolt on to the engine and chasis as far as i know. …still not positive that the z32 tranny bracket is the same as the z31 or if it will bolt up.

like i said, i have the tranny already, with the correct bell housing, i just need to figure out what else i need to get, and what else needs to be done.

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'''nismopu:''' <small>(2010-11-20 23:32:06)</small>

oh ok! yeah I have the same setup. Un installed as well [archived image: frown.png]

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'''Geoffs89Pathy:''' <small>(2010-12-04 22:32:49)</small>

i ordered a clutch kit for a 89 pathfinder (the disc is 9 7/8 inches compared to 9.5 inches for the z31), hydraulics for the clutch, cause that is what my flywheel came off of, as well as the bell housing,

i also ordered the mazworx solid shifter bracket,

gotta go pick up the clutch pedal assembly from a buddy, and then its just doing it and measuring for a driveshaft.

i dont know if the flywheel size is different but if it is i will have to use my old pathfinder starter as well.

one thing i dont have and not sure on is the sleeve for the throw out bearing. i used the pathfinder one on the pathfinder with the z32 clutch to get more throw and help with the engaging sooner. prolly need another pathfinder sleeve,,, but if i can use the other one it might be okay? but i dont know for sure.

last thing ill need is the z32 short shifter and that should be it.

and a clutch dampner unless it can be bypassed…

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'''Geoffs89Pathy:''' <small>(2010-12-13 04:49:49)</small>

questions

1. will my stock tranny crossmember and mount work with the z32 tranny?

2. does any one provide a basic gasket, seal, snap ring set for the R30a?

3. do i need a lift to get the tranny out of the car?

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'''Careless:''' <small>(2010-12-13 04:58:24)</small>

you need to measure the height of the tranny, and then measure the full height of your frame rails. if the tranny is taller than the frame rail, you don't have enough.

I have jackstands that are about 28 inches in height, so I've done the tranny swap on the ground 4 times now.

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'''Geoffs89Pathy:''' <small>(2010-12-16 08:26:10)</small>

i have started to take out the old auto tranny. the project has begun! took a quick measurement from original output shaft to dif flange which was about 31 inches.

the tranny is only hanging by the dipstick tube and some wires. should have it out and the new one in by tomoro.

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'''Geoffs89Pathy:''' <small>(2010-12-24 06:50:29)</small>

tranny is in. picking up the drive shaft tomoro.

z32 tranny swap. check

3.3 swap. check

haha. ive only had the car for 6 weeks!

whats left to do on the tranny swap progress:

check ball, check spring, and check plugs installed.

rear main seal.

re-adjust timing.

get electrical conections and speedo connected/working.

install ds and exhaust

shifter bushing

shifter boot.

couple of questions.

what do i do with the shift actuator that locks the auto shifter into park etc.? cause there is no plug to unplug it as far as i can see? just cut it off?

the other question is another electrical switch that was also inside of the auto shifter, which i believe was pressed down when the shifter was all the way in park. what should i do with it? tape it down? leave it? cut it off?

thanks.

my driveshaft solution was unique yet fairly simple.

i stole my pathfinders rear drive shaft, found a yoke that bolts to the r200 differential flange and has 1310 ujoints to match the pathfinders, trim the collar on the slip yoke to fit in the cars transmission slip yoke cup, shorten it to length, and voila.

stronger than stock one piece ds with bigger stronger ujoints done for less than 100 bucks. cant beat that.

i had to make a custom tranny crossmember which turned out really good i think and incorporates the stock z32 tranny mount.

i will be replacing my engine mounts and tranny mounts soon all with high density polyurethane soon as well.

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'''Geoffs89Pathy:''' <small>(2010-12-29 21:45:03)</small>

car is driving now. just had to jump two wires to get it to start

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'''juanchoturbo85z31:''' <small>(2010-12-29 22:31:05)</small>

Congrats. Any pictures?

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'''unique1391:''' <small>(2011-01-14 17:09:25)</small>

VERY NICE, So all I have to do to to do that to mine aside from the drive shaft and the measurements. Is get a z32 TT Transmission, and swap it on to my Bell Housing and I'll be alset? I cant use my Factory flywheel or starter can I or do I have to get one from a Maxima, and the Starter from an M30? I read through this Forum and got a little confused along the way. Care to straight it out for me just EXACTLY I need to do what you did. Thanks man.

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'''nismopu:''' <small>(2011-01-14 17:12:42)</small>

Can we get this thread cleaned up please? There's very little info on driveshaft lengths and it seems we must go over the bellhousing swap part every week.

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'''Geoffs89Pathy:''' <small>(2011-01-14 21:14:14)</small>

any R30a bellhousing wth the starter location that bolts to the block, and matching slave cylinder with banjo bolt hose.

any matching R30a clutch, flywheel, throwout bearing, sleeve.

z32 5 speed.

mazworx shifter bracket, (or fab your own).

custom driveshaft. (be creative) I shortened a pathfinder ds with a custom yoke.

build a custom crossmember. took me all of 10 mins and uses the stock z32 tranny mount.

clutch pedal and clutch master cylinder.

it is a very basic bolt in upgrade once you figure out the parts you can use. if anyone has any specific questions that is ACTUALLY doing the swap and doesnt just want to know cause they are curious feel free to pm me.

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'''unique1391:''' <small>(2011-01-15 01:21:06)</small>

I am actually workin on the swap but i was just rading this and got a little confused.

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'''gardner86zx:''' <small>(2011-03-09 18:50:21)</small>

This is my home made adjustable solid shifter bracket. This moves the shifter 2 1/4" forward

[attachment=1:6aujmqee]SSPX0328.jpg[/attachment:6aujmqee]

installed with a cheap ebay short shifter

[attachment=0:6aujmqee]SSPX0332.jpg[/attachment:6aujmqee]

There will be some more info to come when i get my drive shaft made

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'''gardner86zx:''' <small>(2011-03-23 05:46:16)</small>

I used the tranny crossmember from the 71c and it bolted up with only minor slotting for the 4 bolt holes. I also got my drive shaft in today. I ordered it for [http://www.driveshaftspecialist.com www.driveshaftspecialist.com]. They needed a measurement from the transmission case where the output seal seats in to the pinon flange on the diff. that came out to be 35" on the dot. this is for an 86na 2+0. Hope this helps

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'''JoCkeWe:''' <small>(2011-03-24 10:46:58)</small>

Nice too see that this thread is alive after about 5years and still motivates people!

My tranny still holds up without problems. Although it's now attached to a z33 tt-vq35de in my z.. Might do a writeup about this if you guys are interested?

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'''nismopu:''' <small>(2011-03-24 12:05:48)</small>

uhhhhhh, why wouldnt we be interested? Sounds awesome! Pics or it didnt happen, lol!

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'''JoCkeWe:''' <small>(2011-03-24 16:57:33)</small>

Here's a little something that shows it did happend. Got some minor things to figure out before she's ready to go..

I'll post the rest of it when summer hit's Sweden and she's polished up and dynoed.. :-)

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'''SATAN:''' <small>(2011-03-25 03:23:03)</small>

OH SNAP SON!!!

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'''Careless:''' <small>(2011-03-25 03:44:45)</small>

BOOM to the POWER of BOOM.

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'''Careless:''' <small>(2011-08-06 20:38:45)</small>

Going to pull a bell housing off a z31 FS5R30A today.... anyone wan't pics of anything in particular?

This will go on a z31 R30A closer to october.

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'''Rick88ss:''' <small>(2011-08-22 00:48:46)</small>

How hard is it to swap bellhousings from a Z31 30A to a Z32 30A?

What do you do for the electronic speed sensor?

Any pics?

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'''gardner86zx:''' <small>(2011-08-22 01:00:26)</small>

not hard at all. When i did mine it was my first time. Just read the fsm ahead of time as there is a couple little balls and springs. It took me about an hour and a half to do.

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'''Rick88ss:''' <small>(2011-08-22 04:44:03)</small>

I found a good write up with pics of a Z32/RB25 hybrid tranny.

First pics show a Z32 tranny being taken apart.

[http://www.rbz32.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=57 http://www.rbz32.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=57]

To just swap the bell housings all you need to do is remove the throwout bearing, and pull the pivot fork off the pivot ball, slide it out of the bell housing.

Also pull the outter detent ball out of the trans. Remove the 17mm bolt on the side of the transmission and remove the spring and then remove the ball. Keep these in a safe place.

Then remove the 10mm bolts that hold the front cover on, the front cover will pull off with some force (its gasketed on)

There will be one large snap ring, and one small snap ring, remove both (you'll see them)

Now youll need to remove all of the 14mm bolts in the center of the trans (these hold the bell housing on)

Now grab your mallet and whack the bell housing till its loose, it'll slide right off

Reverse the process (dont forget new gaskets or RTV) and you've got a new hybrid trans

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'''Careless:''' <small>(2011-08-22 04:48:05)</small>

its very easy.

the hardest thing is to remove the check ball retainer (not the check ball itself).

you must remove the check ball retainer to pull the bell housing off. i tried for an hour to hammer the shit out of the bellhousing to get it off because we couldn't remove the retainer. once we managed to get the retainer out the bell housing came out like a bawseeeeeeee.

really it's simple.

remove all side bolts that hold the bell housing on.

remove the seal plate inside the bell housing.

remove the c-clips and snap rings that hold the shaft and the shift rod in place.

do not remove the locating pins in the rear of the transmission shifter housing… it's unnecessary unless removing the back half of the case (no need for this type of job!)

remove the check ball and spring, then the check ball retainer.

bell housing comes off.

do the same to the z32.

and swap bell housings.

it's best to press out the counter shaft bearing in the bell housing and put a new one in, since you're there.

also, you should get a new seal for the cover plate, and new c-clips/snap rings if you damage yours taking them out (like if you don't have a set of snap-ring pliers and use something else to get them out like I did).

and you'll need a new paper gasket for the seal plate. some light brushing of RTV to seal the case halves together is ideal. and as for the speedometer sensor- i think there is one from a pathfinder that works, though I'm not sure yet.

I am going to replace the check-ball retainer on my trans unless the one on the Z32 fits and it's in good condition. there is an o-ring that will need replacing so maybe that will do it.

I believe its 32 dollars and it's covered in the RB26/Z32 trans swap on HybridZ by Boost3d.

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'''Rick88ss:''' <small>(2011-08-22 04:53:15)</small>

LOL…I guess you didn't see my last post.

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'''Careless:''' <small>(2011-08-22 04:54:32)</small>

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it warned me that you posted while i was typing, but i posted it anyway since i removed the bell housing last weekend…

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'''RXGhost:''' <small>(2011-10-27 21:32:56)</small>

ok sorry If I am blind and didn't see it posted in early posts,

but does anyone know what the difference is between the non-turbo z32 trans and TT transmission is, locally i have the non-turbo transmission all over the place that I can swap but have had no luck finding a TT transmission

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'''nismopu:''' <small>(2011-10-27 23:15:41)</small>

1997 jdm trans is THE onlly one that is different/better

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'''Gregmatic:''' <small>(2011-10-28 18:22:08)</small>

doesn't the TT tranny have the starter mounted in a different spot?

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'''nismopu:''' <small>(2011-10-28 18:40:36)</small>

they all do. Which is why I dont get people sourcing all the parts they do to do the swap. All I did was find a pathfinder 5 speed in the junkyard and remove its bellhousing. Then I swapped it onto the TT tranny I have, that way I didnt have to swap flywheels or starters.

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'''RXGhost:''' <small>(2011-10-28 18:54:25)</small>

I see the part about swapping the bell housing that is not a problem, I am more concerned about the internals or rear of the housing is that different between the tt and the n/a

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'''nismopu:''' <small>(2011-10-28 19:16:23)</small>

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*facepalm* Call Z1 and ask them yourself since no one believes.

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'''RXGhost:''' <small>(2011-10-28 19:40:37)</small>

They told me the case is different but were not sure how

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'''nismopu:''' <small>(2011-10-28 20:01:40)</small>

What they mean is the front bell portion is larger for extra clearance on the 250mm flywheel, pathfinders run 250mm flys as it is so its not an issue for us.

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'''RXGhost:''' <small>(2011-10-28 23:01:57)</small>

perfect then I will just grab the non turbo one I found local thanks

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'''gardner86zx:''' <small>(2011-10-28 23:28:31)</small>

my z32 tranny is an non turbo. works just fine

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'''Gregmatic:''' <small>(2011-10-29 00:42:05)</small>

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I should have been clearer: what I meant to say was that they TT tranny has the starter mounted in a different spot as opposed to the N/A Z32 tranny. I know the starter is in a different spot than a Z31.

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'''shromy:''' <small>(2011-10-29 00:47:29)</small>

[quote]'''Gregmatic wrote:''' 

{{Quote|user=nismopu|they all do. Which is why I dont get people sourcing all the parts they do to do the swap. All I did was find a pathfinder 5 speed in the junkyard and remove its bellhousing. Then I swapped it onto the TT tranny I have, that way I didnt have to swap flywheels or starters.

I should have been clearer: what I meant to say was that they TT tranny has the starter mounted in a different spot as opposed to the N/A Z32 tranny. I know the starter is in a different spot than a Z31.}}

This does not matter if using the z31 or pathy bellhousing, which is the best way to do it.

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'''nismopu:''' <small>(2011-10-29 02:11:10)</small>

[quote]'''Gregmatic wrote:''' 

{{Quote|user=nismopu|they all do. Which is why I dont get people sourcing all the parts they do to do the swap. All I did was find a pathfinder 5 speed in the junkyard and remove its bellhousing. Then I swapped it onto the TT tranny I have, that way I didnt have to swap flywheels or starters.

I should have been clearer: what I meant to say was that they TT tranny has the starter mounted in a different spot as opposed to the N/A Z32 tranny. I know the starter is in a different spot than a Z31.}}

Shromy is right. Also n/a z32 or TT, doesn't matter auto or manual they all run the starter underneath on the bellhousing. The manifolds for n/a and the turbo d's end in the same spot.

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'''ShamWow:''' <small>(2011-10-30 16:16:40)</small>

Has anyone taken the shift cover plate off of the Z32 transmission? I am referring to that black 5 or 6 bolt cover on the top of the tail section. Pictures?

Depending on whats going on in there, I may be able to install some Z31 transmission parts (shift rod or something) and have the shifter located there (several inches further forward of the OEM Z32 shifter locale).

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'''gardner86zx:''' <small>(2011-10-30 16:45:53)</small>

I have but dont have any pics. I am 95% sure that z31 parts will not work. Might have to do something custom.

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'''nismopu:''' <small>(2011-10-30 16:48:21)</small>

From what I remember you cant do much with the shifter rod in there but if i get some time in the garage today I will snap some pics of whats under there. Also, check hybridz for the many threads where they were modifying z32 transmissions to mate onto the l28et.

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'''gardner86zx:''' <small>(2011-10-30 16:56:05)</small>

this is the best that i have, There is one piece missing in the pic that connects the to shafts together

[attachment=0:2pqx0ab9]SSPX0321.jpg[/attachment:2pqx0ab9]

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'''nismopu:''' <small>(2011-10-30 17:04:38)</small>

I don't have anyway of confirming this but from what I can remember the 2wd nissan v6 pickups have the shifter where that plate is and they're the same length as the z32 tranny which is 29"

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'''nismopu:''' <small>(2011-10-30 18:08:19)</small>

here is a pic of my friends v6 5speed in his vg30et powered HB

[archived image: Picture019.jpg]

^CHECK OUT THAT SICK RTV!!!!

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'''Careless:''' <small>(2011-10-31 08:53:23)</small>

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I think it's possible to drive out the roll pin on the end of the fork shaft on the Z32 trans and slip the Z31 striker arm over it and re-pin.

I was going to attempt this with a Z32 trans, but I'm not sure if I should risk pulling the one I will buy in two unless I had a reason too, and I didn't want to move my engine back- but seeing the room available, I may consider it… The only thing I can see being a problem is the offset of the z32 striker arm in the case… It doesn't look like it's perfectly centered in the casting, and it might be an issue with fitment of the other shaft end.

The shafts themselves are in the same location as the z31 though, as far as the mid plate of the trans is concerned- because it moves through the plate that holds the bell housing on using a small circlip. I was just worried that I'd take it apart and the striker arm couldn't pivot sideways to turn the shaft because the casting of the 6-bolt square hole at the top seemed like it wasn't in the same position when I was looking at z32 transes. a quarter of an inch off, and it might be impossible unless a new striker arm is made or something.

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'''Augustus Maximus:''' <small>(2011-11-12 21:30:06)</small>

[http://forums.f31club.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2034&st=0&sk=t&sd=a http://forums.f31club.com/phpBB3/viewto … &sk=t&sd=a]

Since I'm getting ready to do this swap, every bit of info helps.

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'''z31det:''' <small>(2012-04-15 10:30:32)</small>

For anyone who's done this swap on a non-turbo that originally had the 71c, did the rear cross member line up? Mine doesn't line up by about 20mm. Also, is the t5 rear cross member different to the 71c one?, like is it offset differently?

If nothing else I'll just modify it, but it would be good if something would just bolt in to save me some time.

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'''Augustus Maximus:''' <small>(2012-04-16 01:02:15)</small>

Re:

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Show us pics. You have to read this thread very carefully, it's full of and scattered info and very few useful pics , but the answers can be weeded out.

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'''gardner86zx:''' <small>(2012-04-20 13:13:27)</small>

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My 71c cross member bolted right up. On the body there was 4 sets of holes for the cross member to bolt to. it did use a different set than the 71c

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'''z31det:''' <small>(2012-04-21 02:01:48)</small>

[quote]'''gardner86zx wrote:''' 

{{Quote|user=z31det|For anyone who's done this swap on a non-turbo that originally had the 71c, did the rear cross member line up? Mine doesn't line up by about 20mm. Also, is the t5 rear cross member different to the 71c one?, like is it offset differently?

If nothing else I'll just modify it, but it would be good if something would just bolt in to save me some time.

My 71c cross member bolted right up. On the body there was 4 sets of holes for the cross member to bolt to. it did use a different set than the 71c}}

Yeah the closest set of holes weren't the same one's as the 71c…Maybe its something to do with it being 2+2? Or maybe the vg30det?

Either way, I ended up modifying the stock z32 cross-member because the 71c cross-member made it sit way too high anyway. The z32 one has a dip in it too accommodate for how fat it is lol....and as a bonus I don't have that stupid 2 piece member now :lol:

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'''amreboot:''' <small>(2012-05-01 15:27:04)</small>

So… which shift bracket is needed for more of a centered allignement of the stick?

the Mazworx or Xcessive Manufacturing?

From what've I gathered, the Xcessive Manufacturing seems a better fit for our z31 setup.

Thoughts?

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'''gardner86zx:''' <small>(2012-05-01 23:13:28)</small>

The short one form Xcessive Manufacturing is the one you want.

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'''RedDemon:''' <small>(2012-05-05 04:26:40)</small>

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In my opinion, that's not true. I made the shifter bracket similar to the Full Length Xcessive Manufacturing and it placed the shifter where I wanted it. The shifter ended up a bit closer to the driver's side, but I'm glad this was the case because it's feels better with it closer to you.

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'''Careless:''' <small>(2012-05-05 05:18:28)</small>

+1 for careless bellhousing!

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'''RedDemon:''' <small>(2012-05-05 12:21:53)</small>

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Nahhh, I say it's closer to +3254!

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'''Careless:''' <small>(2012-05-05 14:53:28)</small>

[quote]'''RedDemon wrote:''' 

{{Quote|user=Careless|+1 for careless bellhousing!

Nahhh, I say it's closer to +3254!}}

i hope you took pics!

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'''gardner86zx:''' <small>(2012-05-06 12:29:51)</small>

[quote]'''RedDemon wrote:''' 

{{Quote|user=gardner86zx|The short one form Xcessive Manufacturing is the one you want.

In my opinion, that's not true. I made the shifter bracket similar to the Full Length Xcessive Manufacturing and it placed the shifter where I wanted it. The shifter ended up a bit closer to the driver's side, but I'm glad this was the case because it's feels better with it closer to you.}}

My shifter sits closer to the drivers side too. Its because of where the linkage comes out of the tranny. Both the short and full bracket will work but with the short one it puts the shifter at a more stock angle and not straight up and down like yours

[archived image: 20120505_071000.jpg]

short

[archived image: 20120505_071120.jpg]

long

I put the two pics next to each other so people could compare them

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'''RedDemon:''' <small>(2012-05-06 12:41:32)</small>

I see, I thought the short mount would put the shifter too far up for the driver, so I decided to make it similar to the long mounts.

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'''Careless:''' <small>(2012-05-06 17:59:39)</small>

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sooooo you're going to provide DS measurements with the s13/14 subframe and allllll dat? :-D

this is what i'll be doing next spring. then I'll be able to start body work.

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'''RedDemon:''' <small>(2012-05-07 02:58:11)</small>

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Yup, I gots all that, the drivetrain is now completely done as of today!

I'm going to put the info in my build thread, but I won't be updating that until I get it running, which shouldn't be too far from now!

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'''nismopu:''' <small>(2013-02-06 05:26:33)</small>

has anyone ever at any point in this thread explained why the maxima flywheel is needed for this swap?

Also, looking to clean up this thread with info on the maxima fly, clutch, and starter setup. As well as the bellhousing swap method(known as the right way).

I will probably do it build list style on the first page and have people confirm the accuracy of each component in each list. Sound good?

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'''Augustus Maximus:''' <small>(2013-02-07 23:23:37)</small>

Sounds good.

Using the Z32NA bellhousing, the Maxima flywheel puts the ring gear in almost the correct location (1mm difference I believe)

[archived image: FC6.jpg]

Z32

[archived image: FC7.jpg]

Maxima

and finally the Z31 flywheel.

M30, Z32 and Maxima starter bolts up.The friction surface is 4mm closer to the engine which makes me wonder.

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'''Cesar H:''' <small>(2013-02-14 21:08:14)</small>

Just to let everyone know the z31 clutch does not fit the Maxima flywheel. So either you get the flywheel redrilled, Maxima clutch, or swap bellhousing which go for 350.00 brand new from Nissan. Which ever route you decide to go with will be the same price wise if you do not already have a 30a so it comes down to whatever works best for you.

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'''gardner86zx:''' <small>(2013-02-15 02:14:23)</small>

30a bellhouseing is easy to find and cheap in a junk yard

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'''datsunzcar84:''' <small>(2013-02-15 02:39:33)</small>

Got my TT trans just need the Pathy bell.. time for a trip to the pick and pull!

From what iv'e read/heard the 2WD and 4WD bells ARE the same… some one correct me if i'm wrong..

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'''gardner86zx:''' <small>(2013-02-15 02:50:37)</small>

You are correct

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'''Augustus Maximus:''' <small>(2013-02-15 07:40:29)</small>

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Oh really?

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'''gardner86zx:''' <small>(2013-02-15 07:57:13)</small>

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Yup. Any vg3xe with standard trany d21,wd21, r50. Xtera. Frontiers

Lots of options

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'''Cesar H:''' <small>(2013-02-16 05:56:49)</small>

In my case the closest pick and pull is 6hrs away so cost wise it would be the same, so it all depends on what parts you can source out. If you get the bellhousing everything will bolt up if you dont you can use the Maxima Flywheel with Maxima or SR20 clutch with that said the Z31 does not share the same bolt pattern on the pressure plate

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'''Augustus Maximus:''' <small>(2013-02-21 23:58:19)</small>

Kinda makes you wonder how much those assholes on the M30 site was lying. Cuz I ran into the same issue. Post up when you get it going and if you don't I will. This shit is yet to be properly documented in my opinion.

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'''datsunzcar84:''' <small>(2013-02-22 17:20:30)</small>

Looks like my TT trans swap just entered the next level!

[archived image: FAE8EE7B-1D1D-463F-80A0-44EADA5828BA-14971-00000AAADAD491ED_zps6738604b.jpg]

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'''TearingRaven:''' <small>(2013-02-22 19:33:20)</small>

Definitely a swap I want to do in the future.

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'''datsunzcar84:''' <small>(2013-02-22 20:17:24)</small>

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Do ITTTTT! [archived image: rolleyes.png]

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'''TearingRaven:''' <small>(2013-03-05 17:32:52)</small>

Well I have a lead on one of these through a friend so it looks like it may become a reality sooner than I thought. That said, my existing 30A would have to take a serious dump unless I come across one of them in a junkyard to source a bellhousing.

But that said, I REALLY want the Z32 starter [archived image: smile.png]

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'''TearingRaven:''' <small>(2013-03-05 18:30:38)</small>

So based on what I am reading here, the Z31 clutch does NOT bolt to the Maxima Flywheel needed to use the Z32 bellhousing. So is there a configuration where I can use the the Z31 clutch and Z32 bellhousing?

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'''TearingRaven:''' <small>(2013-03-05 18:32:18)</small>

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Then again it appears we have conflicting info here. That said, shouldn't it be possible to shim out the flywheel if only a couple MM are at stake?

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'''TearingRaven:''' <small>(2013-03-05 19:00:26)</small>

[http://forums.nicoclub.com/vg30e-questions-t294643.html http://forums.nicoclub.com/vg30e-questions-t294643.html]

Scroll to the bottom for info. Supports the Maxima flywheel accepting the Z31 clutch.

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'''Cesar H:''' <small>(2013-03-05 22:14:08)</small>

My flywheel is getting redrilled at this moment, I went to my local auto parts store and tried a z31 clutch and no go then tried a Maxima clutch and it fit perfect. I filed the dowel pin holes on my pressure DXD stage 3 pressure plate a tad bit im sure I will not have any problems but I will be drifting my Z so I want everything to be perfect and balanced so I am getting a new one from DXD and flywheel redrilled and balanced as a set. I called Dave@sbc and he assured me they do not share the same bolt pattern as the Z31 but it is the same as the sr20. With that said it is your call but after trying 4 z31 PP both 250mm and 240mm and none working for me.

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'''TearingRaven:''' <small>(2013-03-05 22:21:02)</small>

Strange that there would be so much confusion over this. Was it the 89-91 Maxima Flywheel that you tried?

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'''Cesar H:''' <small>(2013-03-06 01:00:39)</small>

I had this problem [http://forums.f31club.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3692&view=previous http://forums.f31club.com/phpBB3/vie…&view=previous] and have fidanza flywheel #143871

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'''TearingRaven:''' <small>(2013-03-08 00:45:49)</small>

Wow that is close....

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'''datsunzcar84:''' <small>(2013-03-08 01:08:54)</small>

I am wondering what the trans tunnel clearance is for the z32 starter..

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'''TearingRaven:''' <small>(2013-03-08 01:13:47)</small>

I had to mod the whole damn floor board just to get my S13 subframe in. Just get a big hammer, it will move [archived image: smile.png]

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'''Cesar H:''' <small>(2013-03-10 19:31:06)</small>

Yes it is alot closer when you see it in person. The only major problem is the dowel pins that are off aswell that is why I decided to get my flywheel redrilled.

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'''TearingRaven:''' <small>(2013-03-11 04:28:02)</small>

Ok well I've done some more research on this and I think I've gotten to the bottom of it.

The 30A on the Z31 has the 250mm clutch, thus the pressure plate is for that particular flywheel. So if you take a 250mm pressure plate and put it on the Maxima flywheel, it shouldn't work. Research on the M30 forums shows the Z31 plate on the maxima flywheel. I believe this is where the confusion is occurring.

[http://forums.f31club.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=2262 http://forums.f31club.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=2262]

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'''Cesar H:''' <small>(2013-03-12 05:38:03)</small>

My stock clutch kit for my 85 turbo is 240mm and also wont fit.

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'''TearingRaven:''' <small>(2013-03-12 06:11:24)</small>

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Which is for the T5, but the M30 guys are using NA clutches. I'm going to see if I can locate a Maxima flywheel in town to compare my pressure plate.

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'''Cesar H:''' <small>(2013-03-22 19:09:58)</small>

So my flywheel and new clutch kit is on its way. It is a Maxima flywheel a 350z PP and a 240mm disk to match to flywheel surface area. DXD tested everything out for me and again confirmed that NO z31 shares the same bolt pattern so just get a Maxima or SR20 clutch and that way you know you have the correct parts or just swap the bellhousing courtesyparts has them in stock. I should get my setup by next week and will go to the autoparts store to try an NA z31 clutch just to double check.

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'''TearingRaven:''' <small>(2013-03-22 20:39:27)</small>

Sweet! Good looking out man!

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'''Augustus Maximus:''' <small>(2013-03-22 22:23:47)</small>

Not going to fit…period. And a Maxima stater bolts up perfectly. But I'm working with a Z32na tranny.

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'''Cesar H:''' <small>(2013-03-23 05:29:21)</small>

Thanks for the info Augustus I will also be purchasing a NA tranny as well. I just want to get the correct info out there because it cost me an extra 400 dollars to get everything to work. I could have of bought my tranny, starter, and brackets with that money but I will be more cautious from now on and do my best to spend every dollar of my build on the correct parts.

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'''Cesar H:''' <small>(2013-03-30 19:21:43)</small>

Hey guys, my things have arrived from DXD but they sent me the 350z HD pressure plate instead of the SSBbut dave will already took care of that for me A+ customer service. Upon inspection of my new clutch disk though I noticed a very small crack on the organic material at the end of the disk. It has a little organic material missing again the section is 1mmx3mm but since it is at the end a little of the metal content is sticking out maybe I am to picky but wanted to know if any of you have experienced this before.

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'''datsunzcar84:''' <small>(2013-03-31 01:54:23)</small>

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Yeah.. whats the going rate for a bell ??

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'''Cesar H:''' <small>(2013-03-31 07:00:25)</small>

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 350.00 and you dont have to worry about flywheel, clutch, starter, and brackets. If I wouldve known that the wrong info was posted I would have just done that.

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'''datsunzcar84:''' <small>(2013-03-31 14:41:08)</small>

350.. hell , it would be a ton cheaper to just get a bell from a Pathy 30a from a Pick & pull..

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'''Cesar H:''' <small>(2013-03-31 18:38:31)</small>

Yes it would if you have that option.

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'''shromy:''' <small>(2013-03-31 18:39:45)</small>

Hmmm, gives me an idea to go JY hoping for those of you wanting to do this. I could get a few in one day easily.

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'''Augustus Maximus:''' <small>(2013-03-31 18:45:52)</small>

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 Money in hand.

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'''shromy:''' <small>(2013-03-31 18:51:32)</small>

Only thing is i would hate shipping them lol. But I may look into this since the JY I use is close and has a great price on them. I would probably just get the entire transmission. I am thinking around 150+ ship give or take, maybe even 150 shipped for just the bell.

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'''shromy:''' <small>(2013-03-31 19:34:43)</small>

Looked into it a bit.

86-95 d21

01-04 pathy

99-04 frontier

86-95 pathy

and some more. Anyone have any clue if the 3.5l shares the vg bolt pattern? I am thinking no.

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'''gardner86zx:''' <small>(2013-03-31 20:12:57)</small>

97 pathy will work too

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'''Careless:''' <small>(2013-04-02 14:48:26)</small>

I don't think 3.5 shares VG bolt pattern. in order to make use of a 3.5 Manual trans, you need to use a JWT adapter kit that makes use of the VG Auto bell-housing, modified to fit onto the 3.5 trans with an intermediate plate.

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'''Augustus Maximus:''' <small>(2013-04-04 19:56:30)</small>

Yup, even if I get the bellhousing I still want to try the other way, since I have all the parts to do it with.

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'''New2Zs:''' <small>(2013-04-29 12:04:04)</small>

So if I get a bellhousing from a pathy 30a I can use z31 starter, flywheel and clutch on the z32 tranny correct?

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'''nismopu:''' <small>(2013-04-29 12:56:43)</small>

Yes.

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'''Jared86NA:''' <small>(2013-08-16 10:15:18)</small>

Will the z32 5spd work with our manual speedo cable?

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'''Cesar H:''' <small>(2013-12-22 01:45:56)</small>

Jared this is what I am trying to figure out. First problem is that it bolts up differently so for sure a bracket needs to be made. Second I just purchased the pinion gear assembly for the z31 30a in hopes of it working and the gears and seals sitting in the correct place. Lots of people have done the swap but either haven't found a solution or have not shared it. I shall know by the end of next week when my parts arrive

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'''ozzyrulez:''' <small>(2014-01-19 02:42:56)</small>

Any info on the speedo Cesar? I just picked up a 96 Z32 tranny to swap into the Shiro. I think this is the 5th time I've read this thread looking for everything I need lol

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'''Augustus Maximus:''' <small>(2014-01-20 13:50:51)</small>

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All 87 and up Z31 uses a speed sensor. It's only a matter of splicing two wires to get the speedo to work in your Shiro.

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'''ozzyrulez:''' <small>(2014-01-21 05:50:42)</small>

Ah good deal. Thanks for the info good sir!

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'''Cesar H:''' <small>(2014-01-21 19:21:30)</small>

You should be fine this is only an issue for those using the digital dash

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'''BLITZERKING1:''' <small>(2017-01-22 23:33:05)</small>

[http://www.frsport.com/Nissan-32702-02G17-Genuine-OEM-Mechanical-Speedometer-Pinion-Assembly_p_32135.html http://www.frsport.com/Nissan-32702-…y_p_32135.html]

I've been searching around looking to do this swap myself and apparently some guys have used these speed sensors. It fits in the Z32 transmission but it's a mechanical speed sensor. The Nissan part number is 32702-02G17

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'''Pace:''' <small>(2017-01-23 15:57:18)</small>

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I've been searching around looking to do this swap myself and apparently some guys have used these speed sensors. It fits in the Z32 transmission but it's a mechanical speed sensor. The Nissan part number is 32702-02G17}}

Correct. This should be the part number for 86-97 V6 2wd 5-speed Hardbody/SUV/etc. You can still get it from Nissan for ~ $34.00.

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'''BLITZERKING1:''' <small>(2017-01-28 21:18:47)</small>

This is where I am at with my swap so far. I bought a 90 Z32 NA transmission from a junkyard today for $140 and a 90 Z32 NA starter for $50. The speed sensor I ordered from courtesy nissan for about $35 with shipping.

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'''onefast87:''' <small>(2017-02-14 20:28:09)</small>

Does anyone know of a fix to get the digital dash working with a z32 transmission. Im using a R32 GTR speed sensor, the stock cable for the speed sensor bolts on perfect, but im having clearance issues since im doing a different swap. Its looking like I will need to cut a hole in the floor, I won't be able to bash it out enough. And the mechanical cable is too long. Perhaps Dakota digital makes a box? I could use the z32 sensor and wire it up to the stock wiring somehow? anyone ever look into this? the FSM does not really show me how the signal works for the speed sensor. Any input is appreciated. option 2 is not have a working speedometer, and just plug the hole.

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'''BLITZERKING1:''' <small>(2017-02-14 23:13:06)</small>

{{Quote|user=onefast87|Does anyone know of a fix to get the digital dash working with a z32 transmission. Im using a R32 GTR speed sensor, the stock cable for the speed sensor bolts on perfect, but im having clearance issues since im doing a different swap. Its looking like I will need to cut a hole in the floor, I won't be able to bash it out enough. And the mechanical cable is too long. Perhaps Dakota digital makes a box? I could use the z32 sensor and wire it up to the stock wiring somehow? anyone ever look into this? the FSM does not really show me how the signal works for the speed sensor. Any input is appreciated. option 2 is not have a working speedometer, and just plug the hole.}}

What year z31 do you have? I have an 84 turbo with a digital dash but it has a mechanical speed sensor. I believe the mechanical speed sensor hooks up to a digital sensor that goes to the digital gauge. I think the 87's - 89's had a electronic speed sensor and 84-86's had a mechanical one

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'''onefast87:''' <small>(2017-02-15 15:35:42)</small>

I have an 88T with a digital dash, the sensor on the trans is like any other, but it has a mechanical cable to goes to the engine bay, then to the dash.

Im doing a LS swap and would hate to get rid of the digital dash, since I have everything else working like factory other than recording speed.

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'''BLITZERKING1:''' <small>(2017-03-10 21:35:55)</small>

In case anyone was wondering, the bolt size for the starter is M10x1.5 and the nut for the stud is M10x1.0